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<blockquote data-quote="farmerjan" data-source="post: 1706083" data-attributes="member: 25884"><p>The buyers here can also pick out the calves that have LH or Corriente or dairy in them..... and they will bring the 1.00-1.25 / lb compared to straight bred beef calves in the 1.50-1.80 range. Reds here get hit .25/lb or more... Pure chars with pink noses will take the same hit but the crosses with the black noses will only get hurt .10-.15 most times.... and sometimes won't take much hit at all. </p><p>Anything here with "ear" or too much "leather" will take a hit. It is simple fact of the matter. These buyers have been coming to our sales for years and years......I have been going for the 40 years I have lived here.... and they can tell in the 3 seconds the crazy's go in and out... and the rest are held in the ring alot longer than 3 seconds....so the buyers have plenty of time to look them over. They have to be able to make decisions on the fly in seconds.... and the good buyers make money for their clients down the road. If they do a bad job of buying, they will not get repeat business so they HAVE to be able to know their cattle in a glance. </p><p>Now, I am not saying you can't make money on LH /black crossed calves.... the same with the dairy/beef crosses.... and my LH is the most maintenance free cow on the place and does a bang up job of keeping unwanted dogs and coyotes out of the field.... YES, you can make money on the calves.... and some places you might be able to make a real good return..... I make money on my dairy x cows raising calves, but do not get the same return as a straight beef calf. I do not put 1,000's into my cows.... can't afford to. May have some that cost 1200/hd and it takes several years to get a good payback.... they are there to improve the future replacements... but I started with dairy and dairy x and have bred up from there. Took the hits when I started... dairy feeder calves brought .50/lb for years and years.... it is a good way to get started, with little money, but these crossed calves WILL NOT bring premium prices here no matter how "black" they are......</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="farmerjan, post: 1706083, member: 25884"] The buyers here can also pick out the calves that have LH or Corriente or dairy in them..... and they will bring the 1.00-1.25 / lb compared to straight bred beef calves in the 1.50-1.80 range. Reds here get hit .25/lb or more... Pure chars with pink noses will take the same hit but the crosses with the black noses will only get hurt .10-.15 most times.... and sometimes won't take much hit at all. Anything here with "ear" or too much "leather" will take a hit. It is simple fact of the matter. These buyers have been coming to our sales for years and years......I have been going for the 40 years I have lived here.... and they can tell in the 3 seconds the crazy's go in and out... and the rest are held in the ring alot longer than 3 seconds....so the buyers have plenty of time to look them over. They have to be able to make decisions on the fly in seconds.... and the good buyers make money for their clients down the road. If they do a bad job of buying, they will not get repeat business so they HAVE to be able to know their cattle in a glance. Now, I am not saying you can't make money on LH /black crossed calves.... the same with the dairy/beef crosses.... and my LH is the most maintenance free cow on the place and does a bang up job of keeping unwanted dogs and coyotes out of the field.... YES, you can make money on the calves.... and some places you might be able to make a real good return..... I make money on my dairy x cows raising calves, but do not get the same return as a straight beef calf. I do not put 1,000's into my cows.... can't afford to. May have some that cost 1200/hd and it takes several years to get a good payback.... they are there to improve the future replacements... but I started with dairy and dairy x and have bred up from there. Took the hits when I started... dairy feeder calves brought .50/lb for years and years.... it is a good way to get started, with little money, but these crossed calves WILL NOT bring premium prices here no matter how "black" they are...... [/QUOTE]
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