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<blockquote data-quote="novatech" data-source="post: 819130" data-attributes="member: 5494"><p>So why would you think that anything anybody else wrote was any more technical than what you wrote. And by the way what you wrote may have been informative to many on the boards not only to the man that asked the question. How were the responses any more technical than the question asked? No I do not think the man is building a parking garage. It was just an example of how well designed and placed concrete can have tremendous strength. My main point through out has been that there are to many unknowns for proper design. There are tremendous differences in the soils where the concrete will be placed. The loads being placed upon it will make a difference. Will he be using a light tractor or an 40,000 lb articulated loader. He ask a question because he is concerned. He does not want it to fail and have to do it again.</p><p></p><p>This is the exact attitude that has caused more failures than anything else. Have you ever considered the cost of concrete removal and replacement?</p><p></p><p>The suggestion of using fiber would probably the best and most economical over all. If expansion joints were used beams may not even be necessary. That is on the ground that<strong> I think</strong> he may have. On the ground I have it would snap like a cracker. <strong>Also he may want to check out post tension. Even though he would likely have to use an out side contractor the price would be less tan re bar at the price of steel theses days.</strong>In my book you should have posted the first draft that you deleted. It may have pointed out the fact that there is a lot more to concrete than just pouring some off the cuff, arm chair design that may or may not work. Not only for the man that asked the question but for others that may have projects they are thinking of doing. I think your knowledge may be appreciated and used. If it only helped one person think it is still a gain in my book. Sharing knowledge is what these boards are all about.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="novatech, post: 819130, member: 5494"] So why would you think that anything anybody else wrote was any more technical than what you wrote. And by the way what you wrote may have been informative to many on the boards not only to the man that asked the question. How were the responses any more technical than the question asked? No I do not think the man is building a parking garage. It was just an example of how well designed and placed concrete can have tremendous strength. My main point through out has been that there are to many unknowns for proper design. There are tremendous differences in the soils where the concrete will be placed. The loads being placed upon it will make a difference. Will he be using a light tractor or an 40,000 lb articulated loader. He ask a question because he is concerned. He does not want it to fail and have to do it again. This is the exact attitude that has caused more failures than anything else. Have you ever considered the cost of concrete removal and replacement? The suggestion of using fiber would probably the best and most economical over all. If expansion joints were used beams may not even be necessary. That is on the ground that[b] I think[/b] he may have. On the ground I have it would snap like a cracker. [b]Also he may want to check out post tension. Even though he would likely have to use an out side contractor the price would be less tan re bar at the price of steel theses days.[/b]In my book you should have posted the first draft that you deleted. It may have pointed out the fact that there is a lot more to concrete than just pouring some off the cuff, arm chair design that may or may not work. Not only for the man that asked the question but for others that may have projects they are thinking of doing. I think your knowledge may be appreciated and used. If it only helped one person think it is still a gain in my book. Sharing knowledge is what these boards are all about. [/QUOTE]
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