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<blockquote data-quote="Bez+" data-source="post: 683312" data-attributes="member: 6797"><p>Higher my friend</p><p></p><p>We feed hay for up to seven (7) months of the year</p><p></p><p>Pasture cattle from June to October - later if we are lucky - snow drives us out of the grass and into the bales</p><p></p><p>I believe our fuel is higher than yours - running at an average of $3.22 per gallon.</p><p></p><p>(I have completed all conversions for money and volumes completed to match the US gallon and US dollar so the fuel price is clear to all in the US)</p><p></p><p>Our federal, provincial and value added taxes on average are far higher than yours - compliments of those desired programs for a socialist country.</p><p></p><p>Closest auction barn that handles beef on a regular basis is 3 hours by truck and there is no competition so prices are low - sometimes the dairy sale barns will run a small sale and move 40 - 50 head of beef through - happens about once a week at most in this area - sometimes once every two to three weeks.</p><p></p><p>You see the prices we got last week - 63 cents US a pound does not cut it - cattle are going out - national herd numbers are down - slaughter numbers are down - several national sized kill plants have closed - soon we will import more from Brazil and Argentina if things do not change</p><p></p><p>Total federal ag programs in Canada do not come close to what the US farmers gets - see farm subsidy data base - not picking a fight - it is just a fact.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://farm.ewg.org/farm/region.php?fips=38000" target="_blank">http://farm.ewg.org/farm/region.php?fips=38000</a> </p><p></p><p>If you know the persons name and address you can even get the information on the individual and how much he / she received each year in subsidy and program money from the various government departments - I am not truly interested in who gets what - I just want to compete on the same playing field.</p><p></p><p>This one will take you to North Dakota - if memory serves me, the entire country of Canada gets about the same as this one state - maybe a bit more and maybe a bit less - lots of arguments about subsidies and programs - but this site puts it all out there - all compliments of your government - and there for all to read.</p><p></p><p>My personal subsidy when BSE hit Canada - and my animals were not affected - did not fill up my pick up truck with fuel. Last year I got my very first subsidy check for drought - two years late - it came in at just over 10 bucks and I think I still have my three dollar subsidy cheque for my "hold back of heifers"</p><p></p><p>We simply cannot compete - we are too small and do not have the Canadian federal government on side - all in all - pretty bleak</p><p></p><p>Cheers</p><p></p><p>Bez+</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bez+, post: 683312, member: 6797"] Higher my friend We feed hay for up to seven (7) months of the year Pasture cattle from June to October - later if we are lucky - snow drives us out of the grass and into the bales I believe our fuel is higher than yours - running at an average of $3.22 per gallon. (I have completed all conversions for money and volumes completed to match the US gallon and US dollar so the fuel price is clear to all in the US) Our federal, provincial and value added taxes on average are far higher than yours - compliments of those desired programs for a socialist country. Closest auction barn that handles beef on a regular basis is 3 hours by truck and there is no competition so prices are low - sometimes the dairy sale barns will run a small sale and move 40 - 50 head of beef through - happens about once a week at most in this area - sometimes once every two to three weeks. You see the prices we got last week - 63 cents US a pound does not cut it - cattle are going out - national herd numbers are down - slaughter numbers are down - several national sized kill plants have closed - soon we will import more from Brazil and Argentina if things do not change Total federal ag programs in Canada do not come close to what the US farmers gets - see farm subsidy data base - not picking a fight - it is just a fact. [url=http://farm.ewg.org/farm/region.php?fips=38000]http://farm.ewg.org/farm/region.php?fips=38000[/url] If you know the persons name and address you can even get the information on the individual and how much he / she received each year in subsidy and program money from the various government departments - I am not truly interested in who gets what - I just want to compete on the same playing field. This one will take you to North Dakota - if memory serves me, the entire country of Canada gets about the same as this one state - maybe a bit more and maybe a bit less - lots of arguments about subsidies and programs - but this site puts it all out there - all compliments of your government - and there for all to read. My personal subsidy when BSE hit Canada - and my animals were not affected - did not fill up my pick up truck with fuel. Last year I got my very first subsidy check for drought - two years late - it came in at just over 10 bucks and I think I still have my three dollar subsidy cheque for my "hold back of heifers" We simply cannot compete - we are too small and do not have the Canadian federal government on side - all in all - pretty bleak Cheers Bez+ [/QUOTE]
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