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<blockquote data-quote="milkmaid" data-source="post: 169213" data-attributes="member: 852"><p>Oh boy...navel ill...yes I know that one. :shock:</p><p></p><p>I picked up a freebie in late August/early September of last year.</p><p></p><p><img src="http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897828/freckles.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>I wondered the same thing as you; stepped on? broken? dislocated? nuh-uh. Joint infection; vet ran a culture and it was e-coli that entered through the navel and localized in the stifle joint.</p><p></p><p>Calf is now approximately 5 months, 350lbs and still...well, let's say I wish I could go back to when I first got her with the knowledge I have now. One, knowing how she looks <em>now</em>, I wouldn't hesitate like I did about putting her on the illegal drugs. Two, I would have treated it much more aggressively.</p><p></p><p>What I did do - she had one injection in the joint of sulfa. Then the infected area flushed with saline water and gentamycin (illegal drug). Then had her on SMZs for a few days (I didn't like the results/reaction and do keep in mind it can cause liver/kidney damage). Then she was on an every-other-day dose of Nuflor for a month. And Banamine. And Sodium Iodide IVs. And Micotil. And Gentamycin. And Nitrofurazone-DMSO (another illegal one). And there might have been more that I can't remember right now. Run a quick search on the boards; I believe I had three separate topics about that calf. </p><p></p><p>So........if I could go back, I would have started with draining the area, cleaning it well, and putting her on Nuflor. Vicky tells me that one only causes damage to the intestinal flora with long-term use (can be fixed with probiotic), as opposed to other drugs that tend to cause kidney damage. Would have also run Sodium Iodide IVs to start with - that targets bacteria in the bone, which is really what you're dealing with. No withdrawal; all it is, is putting a heavy concentration of iodine in the bloodstream that kills bacteria. Also, I've recently decided to put a little more effort/money into my calf, and I went and had two iodine IVs done a week apart, and now, over this past week, I've been aggressively using a NFZ-DMSO mix (liquid) that I spray on the area, and I'm liking the results. (Might give you guys another update on her soon.)</p><p></p><p>DMSO penetrates the tissue (taking the NFZ with it-antibacterial stuff) and also increases blood flow to the area. Might give that a try - DMSO at the very least. It isn't approved for food-producing animals, but 1) when the calf has a 50-50 chance anyways... and 2) it isn't going to have a very long withdrawal time. My vet was telling me today I could use it on lactating dairy cows, and it's metabolized and eliminated quickly - suggested a 48hr withdrawal.</p><p></p><p>I've seen the way my calf is --- she's not used to putting any weight on one leg, and the other leg is having to support all her weight, so...not good. She'd had it for about 2 weeks before I acquired her, and the longer they go the harder they are to treat. I've decided if I ever deal with it again, it needs to be brought under control as quickly as possible.</p><p></p><p>Which antibiotics are you using?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="milkmaid, post: 169213, member: 852"] Oh boy...navel ill...yes I know that one. :shock: I picked up a freebie in late August/early September of last year. [img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-11/897828/freckles.jpg[/img] I wondered the same thing as you; stepped on? broken? dislocated? nuh-uh. Joint infection; vet ran a culture and it was e-coli that entered through the navel and localized in the stifle joint. Calf is now approximately 5 months, 350lbs and still...well, let's say I wish I could go back to when I first got her with the knowledge I have now. One, knowing how she looks [i]now[/i], I wouldn't hesitate like I did about putting her on the illegal drugs. Two, I would have treated it much more aggressively. What I did do - she had one injection in the joint of sulfa. Then the infected area flushed with saline water and gentamycin (illegal drug). Then had her on SMZs for a few days (I didn't like the results/reaction and do keep in mind it can cause liver/kidney damage). Then she was on an every-other-day dose of Nuflor for a month. And Banamine. And Sodium Iodide IVs. And Micotil. And Gentamycin. And Nitrofurazone-DMSO (another illegal one). And there might have been more that I can't remember right now. Run a quick search on the boards; I believe I had three separate topics about that calf. So........if I could go back, I would have started with draining the area, cleaning it well, and putting her on Nuflor. Vicky tells me that one only causes damage to the intestinal flora with long-term use (can be fixed with probiotic), as opposed to other drugs that tend to cause kidney damage. Would have also run Sodium Iodide IVs to start with - that targets bacteria in the bone, which is really what you're dealing with. No withdrawal; all it is, is putting a heavy concentration of iodine in the bloodstream that kills bacteria. Also, I've recently decided to put a little more effort/money into my calf, and I went and had two iodine IVs done a week apart, and now, over this past week, I've been aggressively using a NFZ-DMSO mix (liquid) that I spray on the area, and I'm liking the results. (Might give you guys another update on her soon.) DMSO penetrates the tissue (taking the NFZ with it-antibacterial stuff) and also increases blood flow to the area. Might give that a try - DMSO at the very least. It isn't approved for food-producing animals, but 1) when the calf has a 50-50 chance anyways... and 2) it isn't going to have a very long withdrawal time. My vet was telling me today I could use it on lactating dairy cows, and it's metabolized and eliminated quickly - suggested a 48hr withdrawal. I've seen the way my calf is --- she's not used to putting any weight on one leg, and the other leg is having to support all her weight, so...not good. She'd had it for about 2 weeks before I acquired her, and the longer they go the harder they are to treat. I've decided if I ever deal with it again, it needs to be brought under control as quickly as possible. Which antibiotics are you using? [/QUOTE]
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