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<blockquote data-quote="CattleMan1920" data-source="post: 1551810" data-attributes="member: 37967"><p>We don't use creep feeders on our operation, and as far as fertility, most of the herd, above 85% breed back 1st try without any issues. We have 22 AI'd right now over the past 45 days confirmed with BioPRYN, and we used absolutely no hormones to make it happen. We have still have more to breed once the weather clears up some so we can move them closer to the barn. </p><p></p><p>I'm not going to do this, but if I cut them completely off grain, and fed hay every other day, they would still be big. I'm not sure if you seed ladino or red clover, but when they hit that in the spring and summer they pack on the pounds, should I tell them to stop eating? Even our feed that we supplement has oats as the main ingredient, not corn. It's 14% protein. Our cattle get prebiotics and probiotics, the "bugs" in their gut process what they eat far better with those supplements than how the average cow functions who doesn't have those supplements. </p><p></p><p>The cow you called obese is 13 years old, has had a calf almost every year since she was about 15 months old. We've never pulled a calf on her, she's walks fine. Never had health issues with her. We will soon be breeding her back SAV Elation in a few weeks. She is nursing a hoss of a bull calf right now from SAV International 2020. She is I50k DNA tested, top 4% of Angus breed for dry matter intake, and top 5% of breed for $EN. She is a highly efficient momma. Unless I put her in a field with almost no forage and neglected her, I seriously doubt she will "trim up". She's looked like the photo above for a long time with no issues. </p><p></p><p>I've taken plenty of University classes and read a lot of books about breeding and forages, but nothing beats hands on experience. I've heard a LOT of bad advice over the years that I'm glad I steered clear of. One of the real stinkers "You should drastically cut feed to cows and heifers close to calving" knock yourself out folks, we feed them all the way until that 85-100 pound healthy calf drops out the back. Our heifers aren't exactly small and they settle just fine, we AI them at about 15 months with no use of lutalyse or synch. </p><p></p><p>If we were having calving issues or problems settling the whole herd then I would have to reevaluate things, but that is simply not the case. </p><p></p><p>I know this will ruffle feathers on this forum, but everyone told us, you need to breed to Connealy Comrade or other high CED bulls, we went the opposite direction and used SAV instead. Everyone said "SAV won't work in KY" Well that was terrible advice, and from people who consider themselves top cattlemen. I respect their right to their opinions, but don't follow them. I feel confident that within 5-8 years from now that we can push the average cow size in our herd from 1750-1900 to 2000-2200 with no compromises in efficiency or fertility. If I am wrong, I put it in words here and I can eat them later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CattleMan1920, post: 1551810, member: 37967"] We don’t use creep feeders on our operation, and as far as fertility, most of the herd, above 85% breed back 1st try without any issues. We have 22 AI’d right now over the past 45 days confirmed with BioPRYN, and we used absolutely no hormones to make it happen. We have still have more to breed once the weather clears up some so we can move them closer to the barn. I’m not going to do this, but if I cut them completely off grain, and fed hay every other day, they would still be big. I’m not sure if you seed ladino or red clover, but when they hit that in the spring and summer they pack on the pounds, should I tell them to stop eating? Even our feed that we supplement has oats as the main ingredient, not corn. It’s 14% protein. Our cattle get prebiotics and probiotics, the “bugs” in their gut process what they eat far better with those supplements than how the average cow functions who doesn’t have those supplements. The cow you called obese is 13 years old, has had a calf almost every year since she was about 15 months old. We’ve never pulled a calf on her, she’s walks fine. Never had health issues with her. We will soon be breeding her back SAV Elation in a few weeks. She is nursing a hoss of a bull calf right now from SAV International 2020. She is I50k DNA tested, top 4% of Angus breed for dry matter intake, and top 5% of breed for $EN. She is a highly efficient momma. Unless I put her in a field with almost no forage and neglected her, I seriously doubt she will “trim up”. She’s looked like the photo above for a long time with no issues. I’ve taken plenty of University classes and read a lot of books about breeding and forages, but nothing beats hands on experience. I’ve heard a LOT of bad advice over the years that I’m glad I steered clear of. One of the real stinkers “You should drastically cut feed to cows and heifers close to calving” knock yourself out folks, we feed them all the way until that 85-100 pound healthy calf drops out the back. Our heifers aren’t exactly small and they settle just fine, we AI them at about 15 months with no use of lutalyse or synch. If we were having calving issues or problems settling the whole herd then I would have to reevaluate things, but that is simply not the case. I know this will ruffle feathers on this forum, but everyone told us, you need to breed to Connealy Comrade or other high CED bulls, we went the opposite direction and used SAV instead. Everyone said “SAV won’t work in KY” Well that was terrible advice, and from people who consider themselves top cattlemen. I respect their right to their opinions, but don’t follow them. I feel confident that within 5-8 years from now that we can push the average cow size in our herd from 1750-1900 to 2000-2200 with no compromises in efficiency or fertility. If I am wrong, I put it in words here and I can eat them later. [/QUOTE]
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