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<blockquote data-quote="DLD" data-source="post: 1142913" data-attributes="member: 19707"><p>Chippie, I'm not the enemy - no one loves this program any more than I do. </p><p></p><p>I know how much work, and money it takes to put these things on. I've been deeply involved in showing cattle my whole life. I've been on all sides of it - exhibitor, parent, ag teacher, judge... I raise show calves and sometimes I trade them, too. I've managed shows and I've shoveled crap, and done everything in between. Often several of those at once - I know you prob'ly have, too.</p><p></p><p>Please back up to the part right before you highlighted - I said the <em>remaining money</em> after the exhibitors get their share. I'm not against helping all youth, but I'll admit that I don't like that money raised in a premium sale goes to benefit anyone other than exhibitors. I'm not going to apologize for that. I probably shouldn't say anything because I don't live in Texas, but I have lots of family and friends that do, and they all participate in the Texas junior livestock programs. </p><p></p><p>I'm not about buying (or selling) five figure prospects either. But you know as well as I do that there are very, very few, if any steers making those state (or even county) premium sales that were bought for market price - I was just trying to illustrate that those kids selling a steer in a premium sale for say $5000 aren't making a killing. I'm quite proud of the fact that a steer I raised was a class winner at Houston this year for a good, hard working family. That family drove 6 hours to get here, and bought an unbroken, unclipped steer for about double sale barn price. I sold a second place steer at San Antonio this year too - same kind of deal. Or even better, one of my niece's boys had a second place steer at Houston this year with one they bred and raised themselves. I'm glad that there are still people that can get along doing it this way, but it doesn't make those that are spending more money wrong, either. IMO, we're raising kids first, livestock second.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DLD, post: 1142913, member: 19707"] Chippie, I'm not the enemy - no one loves this program any more than I do. I know how much work, and money it takes to put these things on. I've been deeply involved in showing cattle my whole life. I've been on all sides of it - exhibitor, parent, ag teacher, judge... I raise show calves and sometimes I trade them, too. I've managed shows and I've shoveled crap, and done everything in between. Often several of those at once - I know you prob'ly have, too. Please back up to the part right before you highlighted - I said the [i]remaining money[/i] after the exhibitors get their share. I'm not against helping all youth, but I'll admit that I don't like that money raised in a premium sale goes to benefit anyone other than exhibitors. I'm not going to apologize for that. I probably shouldn't say anything because I don't live in Texas, but I have lots of family and friends that do, and they all participate in the Texas junior livestock programs. I'm not about buying (or selling) five figure prospects either. But you know as well as I do that there are very, very few, if any steers making those state (or even county) premium sales that were bought for market price - I was just trying to illustrate that those kids selling a steer in a premium sale for say $5000 aren't making a killing. I'm quite proud of the fact that a steer I raised was a class winner at Houston this year for a good, hard working family. That family drove 6 hours to get here, and bought an unbroken, unclipped steer for about double sale barn price. I sold a second place steer at San Antonio this year too - same kind of deal. Or even better, one of my niece's boys had a second place steer at Houston this year with one they bred and raised themselves. I'm glad that there are still people that can get along doing it this way, but it doesn't make those that are spending more money wrong, either. IMO, we're raising kids first, livestock second. [/QUOTE]
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