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<blockquote data-quote="HerefordSire" data-source="post: 399282" data-attributes="member: 4437"><p>HerefordSire, first, sorry about your loss. I took note of your thoughts about your cows in an earlier thread and know that this was a personal as well as a financial loss. </p><p></p><p><em>Thank-you from the heart George! I have worked very long hours for the last 30 or so years. For the last year and a half, I have learned a lot about raising cattle as I have certainly put in the hard work. The 3008 progeny I have are also hard workers. I inspect them very closely all the time, dusk and dark. I stand by them to see what type of grass they like the best so I can provide more. I am there when they need me and when they don't need me. They allow me to rub them on their noses. They make sure they are the one I am looking at as they peak in the corner of their eye from a distance. I can be behind them and they trust me. Like mother like daughter. The Angus is a different story.</em></p><p></p><p>Along with others, I've been critical and adversarial in a lot of exchanges we've made on this board. </p><p></p><p><em>That is quite alright. I believe I encourage debate at times just so I can learn faster. The knowledge comes when I sleep at night as a result of the day's mind debates. The truth just pops in my head all of the sudden and then I take action. People ask what I do for a living and I say, "I think". My entire day is thinking of better more creative ways to do things and problem solving. That is what I get paid for…to save time for many people. If I can save 10 minutes per high dollar licensed engineer per day, I saved the company a lot of money.</em></p><p></p><p>The criticism I stand by - your choice of unproven cows for donors, your infatuation with unproven EPD numbers, your contrarian views on BW and frame size, etc. </p><p></p><p><em>There are times when we have to take a risk to get ahead. With me, there is a strong conviction…I almost get obsessed with a thought as I have an uncanny ability to sense value before maturity. Yes, I am wrong many times. It is all a numbers game when we are humans as we make so many mistakes. The percentage of winners has to overwhelm losers or chose a different profession. We have to stick our head out on the line to be a big winner. The alternative may be certificates of deposits and hope social security doesn't run out for us boomers.</em></p><p></p><p>I've also found you to possess the knowledge and intelligence (likely from experience in areas outside cattle breeding) that has always left me with the thought that, once you see your theories tested and the flaws in your logic revealed, you will adjust your thinking and breeding program accordingly - IF you don't become completely discouraged when you see your financial projections miss by a wide margin. </p><p></p><p><em>I am almost sure you are correct. I have allowed five years to not generate cattle revenue. Hopefully, I won't get discouraged. A little story about Wayne Gretsky I heard but I am not sure if it is true: One championship hockey game was nearing an end with a couple of seconds remaining; Wayne slammed a puck toward the goal to win. The puck hit the outside portion of the goal and ricocheted into the goal as time ran out for the Stanley Cup Championship. When reporters swarmed in the locker room, no one could find Wayne. You know where he was? He was on the ice with an empty rink with bags of pucks hitting the same shot where the puck ricocheted. I am a lot like Wayne.</em></p><p></p><p>I cannot imagine ANYONE investing the amount of capital needed to process and store 100,000 units of semen on a young, unproven bull. 500-1000 units, maybe, but 100,000 units? </p><p></p><p><em>I am accustom and trained in taking large calculated risks. The most important thing to remember is…you must be right! If you don't know you are right or wrong, stay up all night every night until you find the answer. Then make the decision. If you are not right, cut your losses and run to the next one. Once you are trained, you will know a lot quicker if you are right or not after you make a decision.</em></p><p></p><p>Regardless of my criticism of your program, I feel certain that you will have a number of excellent calves from the embryos that you've accumulated. Even from average cows(and I'm not saying YOUR cows are average, just unproven), the array of bulls that you've chosen should produce a crop of calves that could be the foundation of a very good program. </p><p></p><p><em>I have this one Angus recipient carrying the Remitall Highway and the decease Hereford donor conception in her womb. I look at her most every day to inspect how wide she is getting. WOW! It will be a 100+ pound calf let me tell you. I believe the EPD YW is projected over 110 or so. I think the projected EPD BW is around 3.0.</em></p><p></p><p>It'll be interesting to see the choices you make as you move forward.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HerefordSire, post: 399282, member: 4437"] HerefordSire, first, sorry about your loss. I took note of your thoughts about your cows in an earlier thread and know that this was a personal as well as a financial loss. [i]Thank-you from the heart George! I have worked very long hours for the last 30 or so years. For the last year and a half, I have learned a lot about raising cattle as I have certainly put in the hard work. The 3008 progeny I have are also hard workers. I inspect them very closely all the time, dusk and dark. I stand by them to see what type of grass they like the best so I can provide more. I am there when they need me and when they don’t need me. They allow me to rub them on their noses. They make sure they are the one I am looking at as they peak in the corner of their eye from a distance. I can be behind them and they trust me. Like mother like daughter. The Angus is a different story.[/i] Along with others, I've been critical and adversarial in a lot of exchanges we've made on this board. [i]That is quite alright. I believe I encourage debate at times just so I can learn faster. The knowledge comes when I sleep at night as a result of the day’s mind debates. The truth just pops in my head all of the sudden and then I take action. People ask what I do for a living and I say, “I think”. My entire day is thinking of better more creative ways to do things and problem solving. That is what I get paid for…to save time for many people. If I can save 10 minutes per high dollar licensed engineer per day, I saved the company a lot of money.[/i] The criticism I stand by - your choice of unproven cows for donors, your infatuation with unproven EPD numbers, your contrarian views on BW and frame size, etc. [i]There are times when we have to take a risk to get ahead. With me, there is a strong conviction…I almost get obsessed with a thought as I have an uncanny ability to sense value before maturity. Yes, I am wrong many times. It is all a numbers game when we are humans as we make so many mistakes. The percentage of winners has to overwhelm losers or chose a different profession. We have to stick our head out on the line to be a big winner. The alternative may be certificates of deposits and hope social security doesn’t run out for us boomers.[/i] I've also found you to possess the knowledge and intelligence (likely from experience in areas outside cattle breeding) that has always left me with the thought that, once you see your theories tested and the flaws in your logic revealed, you will adjust your thinking and breeding program accordingly - IF you don't become completely discouraged when you see your financial projections miss by a wide margin. [i]I am almost sure you are correct. I have allowed five years to not generate cattle revenue. Hopefully, I won’t get discouraged. A little story about Wayne Gretsky I heard but I am not sure if it is true: One championship hockey game was nearing an end with a couple of seconds remaining; Wayne slammed a puck toward the goal to win. The puck hit the outside portion of the goal and ricocheted into the goal as time ran out for the Stanley Cup Championship. When reporters swarmed in the locker room, no one could find Wayne. You know where he was? He was on the ice with an empty rink with bags of pucks hitting the same shot where the puck ricocheted. I am a lot like Wayne.[/i] I cannot imagine ANYONE investing the amount of capital needed to process and store 100,000 units of semen on a young, unproven bull. 500-1000 units, maybe, but 100,000 units? [i]I am accustom and trained in taking large calculated risks. The most important thing to remember is…you must be right! If you don’t know you are right or wrong, stay up all night every night until you find the answer. Then make the decision. If you are not right, cut your losses and run to the next one. Once you are trained, you will know a lot quicker if you are right or not after you make a decision.[/i] Regardless of my criticism of your program, I feel certain that you will have a number of excellent calves from the embryos that you've accumulated. Even from average cows(and I'm not saying YOUR cows are average, just unproven), the array of bulls that you've chosen should produce a crop of calves that could be the foundation of a very good program. [i]I have this one Angus recipient carrying the Remitall Highway and the decease Hereford donor conception in her womb. I look at her most every day to inspect how wide she is getting. WOW! It will be a 100+ pound calf let me tell you. I believe the EPD YW is projected over 110 or so. I think the projected EPD BW is around 3.0.[/i] It'll be interesting to see the choices you make as you move forward. [/QUOTE]
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