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14 Day CIDRS on cows. Anybody try it?
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<blockquote data-quote="Amo" data-source="post: 1219807" data-attributes="member: 14857"><p>Yes, I know its not recomended. If someone didn't try to build a wheel, would we have gotten cars? Folecular waves, yes that is it. Like I said, I know some have played with it. Some good luck, others not. An association won't recomend anything until its 130% proven, which is good. I don't like being a geuney pig, but I don't mind experimenting a little! :lol: </p><p></p><p>The reason why, same as on the heifers. To tighten the group up, and get a better conception rate on a mass AI. Im a one man operation. It gets old lining up help to sort readies off 4-5 times morning/night. Then its usually muddy. Less stomping in the mud to sort the better. If I put CIDRS in a month ahead of breeding, I would still have the entire herd in the calving pasture, right next to the corrals. Otherwise I have to sort about 4 different ways for pastures. Then the cows use up the AI pasture for the first 2 weeks (sync week & week before that) of the season when the creek is up, so its just a mud hole. There are a few other reasons, mostly convience/time of year that would make it handier for me. Everybodies operation is different. I know its more trips through the chute. I don't mind the heat detecting, its mostly sorting off the the "hot" pairs from the others 4-5 times. Plus with my crop insurance adjusting its hard to donate 3-4 days of am/pm, moving pairs & heat detecting between morning & night. Where the whole idea of the 14 day CIDR is to group everything up tighter to get a good conception rate on a mass breed. I know you can mass breed on a 7. Tired it 2 years ago. I wasn't impressed with conception rate. There may have been a couple of outside factors that could of infulinced it. It would make me just have to pair out 3 groups of cows instead of 4 when I go to grass. Long story short, for the way my operation works....it would make less work!</p><p></p><p>Ive read on here & else where the debates between heat detecting/mass AI. Ive heard some awesome numbers locally about 14 day & mass of 85%. Some will claim b.s, but I know the guy. He is good, and Id believe him. Verdict on me doing it again is pending until calving starts. Guess for me lack of labor/being able to find it, easier pairing out to pastures, using pastures at a different time of year the 14 day would work sweet for me. I know you can mass on a 7 day also. Just I have to pair out the AI cows & keep them seperate for a couple of weeks. Ya I could bump up the calving on the AI's to solve some of that, but due other factors plus weather....I really don't want to calve in Feburary. </p><p></p><p>Like I say, I understand it not "approved", but just kicking tires.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Amo, post: 1219807, member: 14857"] Yes, I know its not recomended. If someone didn't try to build a wheel, would we have gotten cars? Folecular waves, yes that is it. Like I said, I know some have played with it. Some good luck, others not. An association won't recomend anything until its 130% proven, which is good. I don't like being a geuney pig, but I don't mind experimenting a little! :lol: The reason why, same as on the heifers. To tighten the group up, and get a better conception rate on a mass AI. Im a one man operation. It gets old lining up help to sort readies off 4-5 times morning/night. Then its usually muddy. Less stomping in the mud to sort the better. If I put CIDRS in a month ahead of breeding, I would still have the entire herd in the calving pasture, right next to the corrals. Otherwise I have to sort about 4 different ways for pastures. Then the cows use up the AI pasture for the first 2 weeks (sync week & week before that) of the season when the creek is up, so its just a mud hole. There are a few other reasons, mostly convience/time of year that would make it handier for me. Everybodies operation is different. I know its more trips through the chute. I don't mind the heat detecting, its mostly sorting off the the "hot" pairs from the others 4-5 times. Plus with my crop insurance adjusting its hard to donate 3-4 days of am/pm, moving pairs & heat detecting between morning & night. Where the whole idea of the 14 day CIDR is to group everything up tighter to get a good conception rate on a mass breed. I know you can mass breed on a 7. Tired it 2 years ago. I wasn't impressed with conception rate. There may have been a couple of outside factors that could of infulinced it. It would make me just have to pair out 3 groups of cows instead of 4 when I go to grass. Long story short, for the way my operation works....it would make less work! Ive read on here & else where the debates between heat detecting/mass AI. Ive heard some awesome numbers locally about 14 day & mass of 85%. Some will claim b.s, but I know the guy. He is good, and Id believe him. Verdict on me doing it again is pending until calving starts. Guess for me lack of labor/being able to find it, easier pairing out to pastures, using pastures at a different time of year the 14 day would work sweet for me. I know you can mass on a 7 day also. Just I have to pair out the AI cows & keep them seperate for a couple of weeks. Ya I could bump up the calving on the AI's to solve some of that, but due other factors plus weather....I really don't want to calve in Feburary. Like I say, I understand it not "approved", but just kicking tires. [/QUOTE]
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