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<blockquote data-quote="rockridgecattle" data-source="post: 413709" data-attributes="member: 6198"><p>We have had soil analysis and we are so far deficiant especially in N it's not funny. But that has come from generations of not fertilzing or figuring 20#/acre will grow an alfalfa field 30 years old. Changing opinions takes time and patience. We are in the process of working our hay lands. With the price of feritizer we are opting for planting and tilling under a nitrogen producing clover. This is helping. But you can only do so much in a year epecially with old equipment like a steel wheel seeder.</p><p>Renting bulls is not an option. People here will not rent, why, because past abuses of running to many cows on lots of land and the bull comes back looking like crap as well as even the thought of dieases.</p><p>We managed a 3 week season. It took a few years to do. When we first moved here the bulls were out 24/7/365. When we had controlling interest in the cows we had 120d, then 90d then 60 day.</p><p>But with giving one bull to 20-30 cows each in there own pasture we were at</p><p>3weeks 75 % done, exhausted, but done </p><p>45 d 96% done and then only 2-3 cows left after 45 days. Gotta tell you those three weeks were hard.</p><p>Last calving season 2007 we endend up with only 85% done on the 45d mark and 60-65% were done in three weeks and 10 late calvers. That was because two bulls went down. This year well we will just have to wait and see what trouble we get into.</p><p>And we will have to shop for better bulls.</p><p>We do run our bulls together in the off season. Except for Mr. Poopoo head. but that will change once he is gone August.</p><p>Mr PPH was like a queen bee. Especially these last couple of years when he knocked the king bull of his post. Queen bees search out other queens in a hive by calling them. Once a virgin queen hatches they call other queens to them then the other queens are found they fight to the death. The live one is the queen for that hive. This happens if the original queen does not swarm before the virgin hatches. </p><p>Mr PPH does the same to insure his dominance to the point of injuring other bulls. This started in 2006 spring when he became king. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rockridgecattle, post: 413709, member: 6198"] We have had soil analysis and we are so far deficiant especially in N it's not funny. But that has come from generations of not fertilzing or figuring 20#/acre will grow an alfalfa field 30 years old. Changing opinions takes time and patience. We are in the process of working our hay lands. With the price of feritizer we are opting for planting and tilling under a nitrogen producing clover. This is helping. But you can only do so much in a year epecially with old equipment like a steel wheel seeder. Renting bulls is not an option. People here will not rent, why, because past abuses of running to many cows on lots of land and the bull comes back looking like crap as well as even the thought of dieases. We managed a 3 week season. It took a few years to do. When we first moved here the bulls were out 24/7/365. When we had controlling interest in the cows we had 120d, then 90d then 60 day. But with giving one bull to 20-30 cows each in there own pasture we were at 3weeks 75 % done, exhausted, but done 45 d 96% done and then only 2-3 cows left after 45 days. Gotta tell you those three weeks were hard. Last calving season 2007 we endend up with only 85% done on the 45d mark and 60-65% were done in three weeks and 10 late calvers. That was because two bulls went down. This year well we will just have to wait and see what trouble we get into. And we will have to shop for better bulls. We do run our bulls together in the off season. Except for Mr. Poopoo head. but that will change once he is gone August. Mr PPH was like a queen bee. Especially these last couple of years when he knocked the king bull of his post. Queen bees search out other queens in a hive by calling them. Once a virgin queen hatches they call other queens to them then the other queens are found they fight to the death. The live one is the queen for that hive. This happens if the original queen does not swarm before the virgin hatches. Mr PPH does the same to insure his dominance to the point of injuring other bulls. This started in 2006 spring when he became king. :mad: [/QUOTE]
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