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I quit buying heifers and cows, 50% that I bought didn't work out, that's not a good ratio! I'll take my chances raising my own, cull rate so far is about 12%.

I can rent pasture, buy quality hay and mineral, vaccines, etc., for less than a dollar a day per head. That is why I asked about the high cost of raising a heifer. I keep all of mine to build the herd, the ones that don't cut it, get used for freezer beef and I about break even.

How do you arrive at the $1500 figure?

The last bull I weaned was 740 adjusted at 205 days, cow was 1450 pounds. Last heifer was 620 adjusted at 205, cow weighed 1280 pounds. I expect to see most of the calves this year in the same range, maybe even a little more. Calves do not receive any feed until weaning time.

I feed the heifers less than they do, they are bred at 12 to 14 months of age and weigh 750 to 800 pounds. They are usually 5 to 5.5 frame size at a year.

I see what you are harping about, I meant WDA, not ADG. give me your address and I'll be glad to mail you a report from the AAA if you like. :roll:

You're welcome to search Georgia and Alabama and see what the heat index is, or you could come down and hang out on a hot and humid day and see what you think. I never said we had a 209 heat index, or anything close to it. Although a small shower on a 105 degree day sure feels about that hot. I...

No, not everyone, and no, not 850 lbs. Although, It wouldn't surprise me to see some 800+ pound weaning weights this year.

It feels like a sauna most days. You can cook in the parking lot on a hot day, the news folks have actually done it. :D

The point is, there are ways of dealing with the heat and high humidity in feedlot situations, people in the heat and humidity figured it out long ago, and you can plan for it with a simple weather forecast. Inbred doesn't need any help though, he has it all figured out, he only lost 600+ head...

This summer was brutal and I had the best growth I have ever had out of the calves, up to 3.66 ADG with no creep, cows milked great. I've only had one abort, and I think it was because we moved her too soon.

Lets put it this way, all of my cattle are black, and they have seen plenty of 105+ days with 90+ % humidity, so hot and humid when you walk outside your shirt is soaked in sweat in 30 minutes or less. Funny how we don't have any dead cattle though, no sprinklers to cool them down either, nor...

Allot of cattle died in feed lots this past summer, most of it could have been prevented. Feeding grain in the summer heat escalates their body temperature, that is why most started feeding late in the evening or at night, so they could cool back down by the time the heat came on again. Turning...

Oh brother.........too many angus experts. :roll:

She was probably not part of a contemporary group herself. The AAA will not give out EPD's like some organizations on a hunch, the data has to be submitted on the calves, and they have to be in a contemporary group for comparison.

It's really simple, the bulls dam has interim EPD's in all of her categories. If either the sire or the dam have interim status EPD's in any category, the offspring will not receive an EPD for that category. The only way to get an EPD on a calf under those circumstances is for the calf to have...

If you think they are worse than propaganda, why are you so concerned about the CED? :roll: For someone that knows so much about angus, I don't know why you can't figure out why he has no EPD, it's really simple. :lol2:

3way, according to you there must be allot of people pulling calves from heifers, because breed average for CED is 2. :lol2: http://www.angus.org/nce/averages.aspx Doc made a post a year or two ago about all the people selecting for low birth weight and how it was likely to hurt them in the...

Do you even own any angus? Just a little FYI, I have several cows and heifers with a 3 CED and BW's in the 3 to 4 range and they don't have large calves, and have never had a calving problem. :dunce: I guess you are just another clueless angus basher. :bs:

The AAA considers a +3 CED to be safe for heifers, whether or not the bull has a +3 is hard to tell, but the linebred N Bar 5522 would go a long way to getting him there. Looks like whomever bred the bull was trying to fix the calving ease problems in the lines, sure hope they did for his sake...