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There is not a single “Hereford marking gene” the Hereford coloration is an accumulation of a number of color genes.

BLM says there average allotment size is about 7,400 acres. A far cry from cows being ably to graze 10s of thousands of acres at a time across a single allotment as claimed! http://archive.gao.gov/d32t10/146906.pdf

Anyone who knows even the basics of blm leases would know a few simple basics . Cattle can ,will and do eat the many different species of sage brush. Very few leases exist that involve tens of thousands of acres. Even in those that due . Cattle aren't allowed to simply roam tens of thousands of...

Not sure what thickness has to do with length. Kind of like saying you can tell how tall someone is by what they weigh!

But do they have to be long legged ? That is the question? Someone claims that Just because a bull is long legged he can do twice as much as a short legged bull on a blm lease. And that is an economic reality. Nothing in the claim has anything to do with proper structure. Only length of leg...

A bull with leg can't and won't do twice as much as a short legged bull on BLM ground. That is pure and simple bs and is not supported by any fact. This is pure and simple b.s not factual . Spin it any way you want . Muddy the waters all you want with your personal attacks on me but it won’t...

So explain to m exact what you meant then when you said that long legged bulls are needed on blm leases it’s an economic reality? If you didn’t meant that unless the bulls are long legged on blm leases you will not make money? Because everything I am aware of and see is the bulls as well as...

So how many of your cows run on a blm or forest service allotment? I would argue that research being done by someone for their masters thesis . Using data from his own families govt leases as well as neighboring ranch's as well as others in the intermountain region to have skin in the game . But...

So let’s get on the topic of are long legged cattle needed on blm allotments to make a profit as some have claimed? Never ceases to amaze me how some just try to do anything they can not to discuss the topic simply because someone has a different opinion than they do . So rather than actually...

So how many on here actually own a blm or forest service allotment? From the info I can find only about 6 percent of cattle in the us run on government allotments. My guess is that the number of members on CT that actually own an allotment on and run their own cattle on is much smaller. All the...

Someone is projecting a bit . Who was it that quoted an almost year old post. Yet won’t have a discussion on the actual topic. Who has a habit of personal attacks against me rather then have an actual discussion on the topics. You can try to muddy the waters all you want . But it won’t change...

Unwillingness to discuss your opinions only further proves that you don’t have any factual basis for your opinions. Personal attacks on me do very little to convince others of the validity of your opinions either!

Maybe one day you will actually let the facts support your opinion. Most estimate that around 6 percent of the total us cattle inventory is on any government leases (forest service,blm combined) Most leases allow only grazing for at best 6 months a year. Numerous studies done by multiple...

Depends on the situation and location. In many areas it is far more profitable to sell at 500-600 lbs then to sell at 900lbs.

My preference is Dixie Erica 241 and Queen Mother 242 .but a nice group overall.

Char trait does play by the rules and so does the horned African trait. You just have to understand the correct rules and understand that the black trait isn’t a complete dominant trait and it can and will be masked from the phenotype even when present in the genotype by numerous other color...

Not necessarily black isn’t a complete dominant mutation. At best it is an incomplete dominant mutation. Black can be masked or modified by the charolais color . As well as the white park color gene. And almost every color of the Scottish Highland.

Just because an animal is worth a certain amount to me doesn’t make it more or less valuable overall.

Wich is exactly how you had such a huge percentage of the original foundation animals of the herd msud carriers. They picked less then ideal animals at the beginning and then continued to select for black hides compounding the less then desired traits ,including msud , into the foundation...

My biggest problem with the breed is that many of the foundation animals for the breed are/were carriers of msud. I personally think that there are far better animals to select for foundation of a “breed”