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If you have neither you have to get a torch first! The plasma cutter is great if you do a lot of fabrication but not much else.

Does anyone buy it in the gallon jug and spray bottle...just wondering?

Thats why I came here, the sharing of knowledge and factual information is second to none. Thanks dun

Its a great adhesive remover.

Another +1 for the grinder. Ageing the beef will not help with the toughness, beef is aged in order to concentrate the flavors.