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That's a good tip. Will have to check the price of whole oats. Thanks.

I am not sure what variety they are. No this will be 1st time.

At our local agronomics store Valley Ag.

Think I am going to seeding pea/oats in the winter area it's probably close to 3/4 ac. Mix is 37.50 for 50lbs.

Other source wants 1500.00 for 24 ton. Plus, I would have to haul nobody delivers or spreads around here anymore. So, looks like nothing this year.

What are prices for chicken litter in your area. Costing roughly $38 a ton here. To do 12 acres @ 2 ton an acre just cost of litter is $912.00 not including any trucking or spreading.

I was considering doing the samething.

WOW. 22.20 per bangs vax up here. Of course, there is travel fee on top of that.

I agree on the 3 acres I planted I tilled about 3 inches to break up sod and to get good soil contact. Planted late in season due to no fall rain so germination. Went from warm to cold no fall this year. Going to try shallow till to terminate covers and replant. This is why I am doing small plot.

cereal rye, vetch, purple top turnips, fava beans and some extra kale seed I had. Working on summer mix on smart mix very helpful tool. Cover crop seeds are limited out here, found dealer down in Oregon and one up north. Can't afford shipping.

I planted 3 acres this fall, was late because of no rain until end of oct. should be ready for spring grazing. I hay neighbor's field and want to buy the rest I need so I can convert more to winter and summer cover crops. Have been reading up on the finishing on covers.

Thats my goal to stop haying! Are you using any cover crops?

There is a lot of good info on the net on that subject of soil health. Ray A. Gabe B. Dr Elaines soil food web. I started planting multispecies cover crops. Legumes to capture N, turnips for compaction. cereal rye. Main goal is to try and graze year around or at least 10 months a year and build...

Organic matter 7.13 and cec 9

Thats useful info about nutrients not showing up in your test results. My ph is 5.7 far cry from the 5.0 it was.

My local agronomics sent soil sample to a Lab in Idaho. The local fertilizer dealers are working off their recommendations, or am I missing something?

Seen a quote: "I am a grass farmer first and a cattle rancher second."

Soil tests are a tool in the management process not only tells you what deficiency land has but also what minerals levels are ok. I asked for a recommendation from last soil test just for their input. Ph is my biggest battle, land was x-mas tree farm for many years. ph was 5. up to 5.7 now.

Thats just a stock fertilizer. Having them put together a mix per soil test. I think that is going to be the big ouch!