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Well, Caustic then if you ever see a newspaper article about a woman from Amarillo, Tx being killed by her pet "bull" then you'll be able to say "I told her so". I still appreciate your honesty. :)

Chiangus, when sold he weighed 1200#'s and for $1750. He weighs around a 1000# now!

I appreciate your honesty on the business -- I would never ask or suggest for an apology on giving advice; I appreciate you all taking time to talk to me and give my your thoughts on the situation. I understand joint pain but luckily have had no surgeries. However, I am in the medical field...

Very true; I agree with you -- we will never know the truth and for me it was hard lesson to learn! But that is life and I will remember it in the future.

Well, put and believe me I am keeping that in mind. The last thing I want to do is hurt him any worse than has already happened; whether intentional or an accident in the beginning. I appreciate your replies.

Well, put, Sir! And I do appreciate the advice and comments. And yes, in the end -- with my vet at hand; I will do the right thing for my bull. Thank you

Kingfisher -- I am not saying the fellow "crippled" the bull on purpose -- accidents do happen; especially during breeding season. However, then be why after 45 days contact me and tell me this -- he wants me to do the right thing -- what about the gentleman doing the right business thing and...

I agree but I am not done yet -- believe me I will continue to post and tell you all the truth of what I am doing with the consent of my vet -- and whatever may happen with the bull you will know.

I'm still hear and I may not get the answer I want but what is most important is that the advice be honest and genuine. We don't all get the answers we want as we go throught life -- that is why it is called life!

No, Dun -- I'm still here. Yes I can handle the truth -- and the information you guys are giving me. It's helps me greatly to hear your view points. Honesty and bluntless --- I do not shy away from. I apologize if you all thought I just ducked my tail and ran but I didn't.

If my bull could be helped -- I don't need to breed him, I don't want to do anything but let him have a good life --- taken care of! He is a good bull, and I know you guys don't care to hear this but he is a gentle bull. He would live the life of luxury in my opinion. He enjoys being bathed...

I am conversing with my vet -- and yes -- I will take his advice and I believe firmly if he thought for a minute the bull was suffering or I was abusing or neglecting him that he would be very upfront with me. He is a large animal vet most of all.

My vet is still working with me -- I am not pumping him full of medications but I am trying so alternatives to see if it will help him -- we are considering sedating him, putting him in traction and putting the hip back in place and see what happens.

I agree; it's my fault the guarantee wasn't in writing; I guaranteed the gentleman a good bull for breeding a pasture full of new heifers for the first go around. Had no idea that a freak accident or owner's neglect would come back on me. This was my first time of selling and he has been in...

Your exactly right -- he was'nt limping and I have not refunded the money to date.

Could not agree with you more on no one should be allowed to own cattle or any animal if they are going to make them suffer or starve. However, I am not "one" of those people! But your dramatical writing on how to kill an animal could make one wonder about your comments. I did not ask for...

Define suffering? And how do you tell when your cattle are suffering? Or is sending them to the slaughter house the easy way out?

Thank you for respectfullness in your reply. The gentleman will not tell me what happen. Only states he started limping the 1st time off trailer when unloading him. He did not contact me until 45 days later. I did have my vet examine him; no xrays just walking behind him and observed him. I...

Why do you deem this a potential case of abuse/neglect? Define suffering? Shipping to the slaughter could be deemed as animal abuse/neglect for the way they are treated.

BC, Caustic Burno & Arron: I appreciate your comments, even though I do not agree with them. I am not abusing/neglecting my bull. He is not starving, either! Yes, he can still walk and even though you all can say send him to the slaughter -- is that the easy way out and be done with it!?! I...