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Ironpeddler thanks for the information. Do you happen to know any other differences between the 504M Classic and the new 504N. I know they changed the belt tightening cylinders and the way the net wrap is routed. Is there anything else that would make the 504N worth the extra money?

Thanks for the offer but I found out today that they are coming out with 5420 that has some upgraded features so if I go with the Rebel series again I think I would just wait and see how the new one looks. I am really more interested in the 504M if I can swing the price difference. Around here...

Just wondering if anybody is running one of these. Currently using a Vermeer 5410 and while it does a good job I have been wishing I would have got the net wrap option when I bought it. So I have been thinking about upgrading to one with net wrap. It will either be a new 5410 or a 504M...