"New" New Holland hay equipment paint

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It may be different other places but New Holland is out for me regardless of color just in regards to the somewhat local dealership.
Used to have a pretty good Case dealership about 50 miles away. Then the company pulled the dealership, and now we’d have to go 70 miles south of here, or about 70 miles west almost to Louisville to a Case dealership.
I’ve always kind of liked John Deere, but never really to the point of thinking it’s the only kind, but now as far as regional choices I’m inclined to go with John Deere or Kubota based on dealerships and or parts availability.
 
NH may make their tractors yellow next. They will look like a Minneapolis-Moline.

On the white vehicles there are some of the ugliest colors I have ever seen on some of these new vehicles. It is not new, but I have a white truck and white SUV. On the Honda SUV the other colors where so, ugly white was all to choose from IMO.

Be like Henry Ford "Any customer can have a car painted any color that he wants so long as it is black."
 
Don’t like it, even though they try to look like Vermeer I’ll keep my Vermeer!
 
daneg said:
Don’t like it, even though they try to look like Vermeer I’ll keep my Vermeer!
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I don’t see the similarities to be honest. Very different colour. I did like my Vermeer 605N, but I really like my RB560. I drug my feet about getting it but the dealer is good (and close). Turned out to be a very good decision (to this point)
 
Google AI compares the big three round balers, and I thought it was a good summary;

John Deere, Vermeer, and New Holland (NH) are the top three round baler manufacturers, each excelling in different areas. Deere leads in high-tech automation and user-friendliness, Vermeer is renowned for heavy-duty durability and feeding capacity, and New Holland is praised for consistent bale shape and net-wrap coverage. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]

John Deere Round Balers
  • Key Advantage: High-end technology and superior ease of use. Premium "M" and "R" series feature smart automation that reduces operator fatigue and streamlines the baling process. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
  • Bale Quality: Known for making nice-looking, uniform bales, although some operators report they can struggle to pack the core as tightly as Vermeer or NH depending on crop conditions. [1, 2, 3]
  • Maintenance & Tech: Deere models are loaded with electronic sensors. While this makes operations smooth, older sensors can sometimes be finicky. [1, 2]

Vermeer Round Balers

  • Key Advantage: Heavy-duty build quality and aggressive pickup capability. Vermeer models are often heavier, making them tough workhorses that handle heavy, wet crops with less horsepower. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
  • Bale Quality: Produces extremely dense, tight bales with larger teeth on the pickup to gather more crop smoothly. [1, 2, 3, 4]
  • Maintenance & Tech: Vermeer monitors are widely considered top-of-the-line for user feedback and clarity. However, some users report higher maintenance on specific bearings over long-term, high-bale-count usage. [1, 2]

New Holland (NH) Round Balers
  • Key Advantage: Excellent net-wrap performance and overall bale shaping. Models like the Roll-Belt series create dense, square-cornered bales. [1, 2]
  • Bale Quality: Highly consistent. NH manages net-wrap distribution exceptionally well, yielding high-quality, weather-resistant bales. [1, 2]
  • Maintenance & Tech: NH machines feature more moving parts in the belt system which may require extra maintenance as the baler ages. In muddy conditions, some users note that mud can get onto rollers and interfere with net-wrapping. [1]
 
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While at it I had to Google AI wheel V-rakes and some good info there also. AI does thousands of searches almost instantly and gives good feedback.

The best wheel rake depends on the scale of your operation. For high-capacity needs, the Vermeer VRB Series (models 12, 14, and 16) is a top choice for its durability and bifold frame. For smaller to mid-sized farms, the Vermeer VR1022 and Kuhn SR Speedrakes are highly recommended, standard go-to choices. [1, 2, 3]

High-Capacity (V-Rakes)
For large-scale hay and forage operations, high-capacity carted wheel rakes cover wide swaths quickly and efficiently. []
  • Vermeer VRB Series (VRB12, VRB14, VRB16): Highly regarded for their bifold frames, which provide excellent ground clearance and crop flow. They feature massive 60-inch rake wheels and adjustable ground pressure to contour varying terrain without damaging the crop. [1]
    • Durabilt Qrake X: A heavy-duty "V" type frame that easily handles heavy swaths. Models require 50 to 60 HP tractors and offer impressive adjustable working widths up to 28 feet. [1, 2]


Mid-Sized & Standard Rakes
If you are managing smaller fields, 10-wheel carted rakes offer the perfect balance of strength, maneuverability, and cost-efficiency. [1]
  • Vermeer VR1022 / VR1224: These are staples in the hay industry. They are heavily praised for being easy to adjust (for single- or double-sided raking) and are typically offered at a competitive price point. [1]
  • Kuhn SR 112 / 312 Speedrakes: Known for impressive speed and clean raking. Many operators consider these a gold standard in the 10- to 12-wheel category. [1, 2]
  • Kubota (10-Wheel): Highly favored in community forums, especially when equipped with a center kicker to spread heavy hay for a faster dry-down. [1, 2]

Key Features to Look For
  • Center Kicker Wheels: A tongue-mounted center kicker is highly recommended to prevent heavy hay from balling up and to speed up dry-down times. [1, 2]
  • Hydraulic Adjustments: Look for rakes that allow you to adjust ground pressure and windrow width directly from the tractor cab. [1]
  • Individual Wheel Suspension: Being able to adjust the spring/ground pressure on independent wheels ensures clean raking across uneven or rocky terrain. [1, 2, 3]
 
jltrent said:
While at it I had to Google AI wheel V-rakes and some good info there also. AI does thousands of searches almost instantly and gives good feedback.

The best wheel rake depends on the scale of your operation. For high-capacity needs, the Vermeer VRB Series (models 12, 14, and 16) is a top choice for its durability and bifold frame. For smaller to mid-sized farms, the Vermeer VR1022 and Kuhn SR Speedrakes are highly recommended, standard go-to choices. [1, 2, 3]

High-Capacity (V-Rakes)
For large-scale hay and forage operations, high-capacity carted wheel rakes cover wide swaths quickly and efficiently. []
  • Vermeer VRB Series (VRB12, VRB14, VRB16): Highly regarded for their bifold frames, which provide excellent ground clearance and crop flow. They feature massive 60-inch rake wheels and adjustable ground pressure to contour varying terrain without damaging the crop. [1]
    • Durabilt Qrake X: A heavy-duty "V" type frame that easily handles heavy swaths. Models require 50 to 60 HP tractors and offer impressive adjustable working widths up to 28 feet. [1, 2]


Mid-Sized & Standard Rakes
If you are managing smaller fields, 10-wheel carted rakes offer the perfect balance of strength, maneuverability, and cost-efficiency. [1]
  • Vermeer VR1022 / VR1224: These are staples in the hay industry. They are heavily praised for being easy to adjust (for single- or double-sided raking) and are typically offered at a competitive price point. [1]
  • Kuhn SR 112 / 312 Speedrakes: Known for impressive speed and clean raking. Many operators consider these a gold standard in the 10- to 12-wheel category. [1, 2]
  • Kubota (10-Wheel): Highly favored in community forums, especially when equipped with a center kicker to spread heavy hay for a faster dry-down. [1, 2]

Key Features to Look For
  • Center Kicker Wheels: A tongue-mounted center kicker is highly recommended to prevent heavy hay from balling up and to speed up dry-down times. [1, 2]
  • Hydraulic Adjustments: Look for rakes that allow you to adjust ground pressure and windrow width directly from the tractor cab. [1]
  • Individual Wheel Suspension: Being able to adjust the spring/ground pressure on independent wheels ensures clean raking across uneven or rocky terrain. [1, 2, 3]
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I don't haVE kubota rake but we have a kubota baler, one of the worst deisions we have ever made
 
Stonewall Joe said:
I don't haVE kubota rake but we have a kubota baler, one of the worst deisions we have ever made
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They make a good bale, but a former employee of our local dealer with extensive experience (worked there several years and moved up to a better job) of the Kubota balers advised a neighbor to not buy one. Not knocking the balers as what I have seen they look good. He bought one from the same dealer a different brand.
 
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simme said:
An observation. Most here seem to agree that color of cattle should not be an indication of worth, value, quality. With some passionate/obsessive discussions on the topic. But some might have preferences for color of equipment. Not the brand choice, just the paint/color.

White is probably the most common color for trucks. Would anyone want a white baler, tractor, grain drill, mower?
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there have been tractors that are primarily white (mostly imported) and one branded as white that was silver
 
SmokinM said:
Color makes no difference to me. I love my old 7060 machines but NH parts and service have convinced me my future equipment won’t have their logo on it. Honestly from what I have seen these new balers spend more time beside a service truck than straddling a windrow regardless of the brand. If I had to buy one it would likely be Mchale green based on the dependability in my neighborhood the last 5 years.
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I stopped and looked at a Mchale a year or 2 ago, they sure do look stout and heavy made, I guess they have to be to bale all that wet stuff in Europe. Haven't actually talked to but one guy that had oe, he said he loved it but I thibk he was the dealer's brother in law. My thoughts on some of the new ones are they have more electronics than needed, I bought a Kubota round Baler, supposed premium baler and it has been a lot of problems since day 1, I wouldn't reccomend that to anyone. When it's working right it bales like nothing I've ever seen but it just breaks down too often.
 
jltrent said:
They make a good bale, but a former employee of our local dealer with extensive experience (worked there several years and moved up to a better job) of the Kubota balers advised a neighbor to not buy one. Not knocking the balers as what I have seen they look good. He bought one from the same dealer a different brand.
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good choice to buy a different brand
 
On a recent trip to the eastern side of the state, I made note of pickup colors... You guys are right... there are probably 4 to 1 white pickups over other colors that I saw on the trip. In every make and model. Many in this area are a silver or grey color... or a dark color... lots of blacks, dark greens. We have a 2 tone blue/silver, a copper colored dually, a dark greenish 2wd, 2 red ones, red/white 2 tone, a brick red supercab with flat bed... and I FORGOT.... son has a white crew cab....
Every one was bought used... except the copper dually... but that was my dad's so yeah, it was used I guess...
Color doesn't matter much to me.. I prefer blue or darker... I once had a "peppermint patty" green F150 2wd supercab that I bought new in 1979... but it was on the lot that color...
 
I never had anything against white tractors.

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Here are some white China Tavol tractors. That canopy wouldn't help much from the weather.

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farmerjan said:
On a recent trip to the eastern side of the state, I made note of pickup colors... You guys are right... there are probably 4 to 1 white pickups over other colors that I saw on the trip. In every make and model. Many in this area are a silver or grey color... or a dark color... lots of blacks, dark greens. We have a 2 tone blue/silver, a copper colored dually, a dark greenish 2wd, 2 red ones, red/white 2 tone, a brick red supercab with flat bed... and I FORGOT.... son has a white crew cab....
Every one was bought used... except the copper dually... but that was my dad's so yeah, it was used I guess...
Color doesn't matter much to me.. I prefer blue or darker... I once had a "peppermint patty" green F150 2wd supercab that I bought new in 1979... but it was on the lot that color...
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Early one gloomy cloudy morning many years ago, I was in the local feed store and feller came in madder than a hornet. Saying he’d just about turned in front of a gray car that he didn’t see till it was right about even with him.
He said it ought to be illegal to have gray or silver vehicles cause they blended in with the roads.
Since then I’ve kind of held that against gray or silver vehicles. I don’t know it to be entirely true, but it does make sense, and especially so back then when vehicles didn’t have the automatic daytime running lights.
 
I had a half ton F-150 that got hit 3 times before insurance finally totaled it. It was a two-tone brown/tan. It just blended into the landscape and was hard to see. Been driving white paint ever since.
 

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