Squeeze Chute Options

A Silencer would be too heavy to be a "portable/travelling unit". There's always trade-offs. If you want "portable", you also have to accommodate "lighter weight" and "size" (like for an alley leading up to it). I'm sure that most would automatically put a longer alley on than any of the "portable systems" have on them, IF IT WASN'T A PORTABLE SYSTEM. Personally, I wouldn't want an alley that would be shorter than at least 3 cows, if I had a choice. But if you do that with a portable unit, plus a squeeze chute AND a sweep box... you're gonna be longer than a semi trailer! Gets pretty clumsy and heavy to deal with at that point.
They have portable models. My vet owns two of them. Pulls it around to work cows where his clients don't have a chute. Gets a little rent for it when he has to bring it along.
 
I remember the first time I saw a Silencer. It was at an Ag show in Spokane. Probably around 2008. I really liked it but they told me $10,000. More than I had to spend. I said something to the young salesman about feedlots would be his only customers. He said no I sell to a lot of ranches. If you are running a lot of cows through in a day they are a lot faster and easier on your body. That $45,000 was at an auction. How often do you see things sell for more at an auction than you can buy for from a store. There was 2 people who really wanted that and wanted it today. Monday I will be at Oregon Trail Livestock Supply. I will ask what they are selling for.
 
I've seen them on FB marketplace for $3-4k but don't really know what one would go for. If I had Power to the corrals I'd go with a Mexican made hydraulic chute. They seem really well made. If I get another Pearson I'm going to try a bifold tailgate. The rear gate on ours is becoming a problem.
They have an option of a honda gas motor or electric motor. No problem if you don't have power.
 
They have an option of a honda gas motor or electric motor. No problem if you don't have power.
I looked at the gas power units and also looked at running it off a bale bed or skid steer. We work all the cows twice a year and then usually only use the chute when we have a problem. I'd hate to have to hook something up or try to start a motor to pull a calf or give one shot. I'd eventually like to get a permanent mount generator at the barn/corrals but not sure when that will happen. Power company wanted $20k to bring us power last year.
 
I looked at the gas power units and also looked at running it off a bale bed or skid steer. We work all the cows twice a year and then usually only use the chute when we have a problem. I'd hate to have to hook something up or try to start a motor to pull a calf or give one shot. I'd eventually like to get a permanent mount generator at the barn/corrals but not sure when that will happen. Power company wanted $20k to bring us power last year.
Sounds like it would be cheaper / easier to keep an old manual chute somewhere in the system for the occasional use stuff.
In my case the big workings of the cows is done at the corrals which is separate from the barn system so I’m toying with the idea of a hydraulic chute for that, and continuing to use the facilities at the barns for calving and misc. things with the manual setups.
 
Sounds like it would be cheaper / easier to keep an old manual chute somewhere in the system for the occasional use stuff.
In my case the big workings of the cows is done at the corrals which is separate from the barn system so I’m toying with the idea of a hydraulic chute for that, and continuing to use the facilities at the barns for calving and misc. things with the manual setups.
I am thinking about that. The squeeze now is under a cover and on concrete. The lead up tub and ally has a side load out door that we never use. Thought about putting the hydraulic under the roof and the manual at the side load out that we no longer use.

I was looking really hard at the hydraulic chutes until this time last year when I had to pull a calf at 10pm. I watched that cow for 3 hrs then spent an hour and a half catching her by myself. It was a sloppy mess out that night too. I might have had a panic attack if had to fire up a gas motor or go get a pickup to run the chute.
 
I know this has probably been beat to death and I have done some searching and reading, but some of the information is outdated.

I'm trying to pick a squeeze chute for my operation which will be max ~12 pairs.

So, I don't know that I need to most expensive arrowquip, but want a quality unit that will last a long time.

I am participating in the TAEP program, so the unit has to be new.

I think a Priefert S04 would probably do everything I would need it to, but I know there are a lot of new unknown name units out there.

What does the forum think?
Disregard this, I just remembered that you are using TAEP, and it has to be new.

https://bid.proteamauction.com/ui/auctions/156125/23018056
 
Has anybody ever seen a Priefert SC11/SC13? The number represents the year that it was introduced... don't think there's a nickels worth of difference between the 11 and the 13... They discontinued it shortly after that year though as I understand it (got that from Priefert themself... not enough sales to justify it as a more expensive chute... so they dropped it and the SO4 became their main chute). A little bit bigger in every way, little bit heavier, powder coated, a few nicer features... mainly the tailgate and the auto-catch on the headgate is supposedly a little nicer. Big thing that I'd like about it would be that it's not so much of a head-banger when doing palp work... The Priefert's are OK, IMO... and get the job done. Like their headgate better than most.

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Or what about this one???? https://farmranchstore.com/products/squeeze-chute-sc25 Almost gotta believe this is a scam ad... nothing about it at all on Priefert's website... Looks as though it's maybe based on that old SC11/SC13 though.

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I just talked with Priefert about this one... it IS a new chute that they are introducing right now... so y'all are the first to know! :oops:

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They don't even have them ready for shipping as yet, don't have any brochures or flyers made up yet, and haven't put it up on their website yet either... they didn't even know where this supplier would have gotten the picture of it... although they do have it on display for the Ft. Worth Stock Show and Rodeo coming up next week. This IS however a picture of the actual chute then. If you wanted to order one, they can't tell you yet when they would be able to get one to you... it's THAT NEW to their lineup.

It's considerably larger than the SO4... wider, longer, taller. It squeezes from both sides (don't need to adjust the base of the sides to squeeze smaller critters), and has a split tailgate. Has a heavier built headgate... currently only available as a manually operated (that's a surprise!!!), but they are probably going to be offering it as a manually operated OR with their normal "automatic headgate" feature as well. You can't operate the headgate from the rear of the chute, however, "sales" suggested that the chute is long enough that you can run a big cow in and shut the gate behind her, AND THEN open the headgate to catch her (I respectfully suggested to him that that is NOT the best option, particularly when their competition are already offering a "catch from behind the cow and the back of the chute" option...). It's a powder-coated chute, rather than a dip painted one.

It has some nice features... and is an improvement... and it'll have a pricetag to go with.
 
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Or what about this one???? https://farmranchstore.com/products/squeeze-chute-sc25 Almost gotta believe this is a scam ad... nothing about it at all on Priefert's website... Looks as though it's maybe based on that old SC11/SC13 though.

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Saw this in real life yesterday at FWSS. Just starting production. 32” wide, 10” cleated rubber base. It was NICE! Priefert is having to make chute compatible components though-current alleys and tow dolly are 28” or won’t hold the extra 900 lb weight. Still in the “build to order” stage, but would be great for big hipped cows or bulls.
 

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Im a Priefert owner and have no interest in rear controls. Putting the cows in the chute then working the headgate is a much better system, when it works.

I want them to just focus on a a solid product at a reasonable price like they have been doing. They made one positive change I can see from the pic and that is the bottom plates.

Hopefully they dont try to compete with Arrow and have a fancy, faulty chute.
 
Im a Priefert owner and have no interest in rear controls. Putting the cows in the chute then working the headgate is a much better system, when it works.

I want them to just focus on a a solid product at a reasonable price like they have been doing. They made one positive change I can see from the pic and that is the bottom plates.

Hopefully they dont try to compete with Arrow and have a fancy, faulty chute.
@Brute 23, do you mean the bottom access doors? I kind of thought that might be a negative, although because of the larger size (longer", maybe the would need to split that door. If you only open one, (assume the rear... is that front one then in the way and in a place where you could get your arm whacked up against it by a kicker? These bottom panels are made to swing out, hinged on the ends. Will they strike the ground, if you don't have the chute "squeezed" to tilt the side panel inward? Looks to me like that panel is slanted out on top pretty good... And then if you open it, they're sticking out there in your way potentially, where with the old style, you just removed the whole thing and set it out of the way... They went to a plastic panel in that bottom door... supposedly makes it quieter... because of the frame required to support that plastic, I wouldn't think that it could be any lighter weight.

My concern with putting them in the chute first, and then catching them in the headgate is that some won't enter the chute as readily if they don't see enough daylight out front to escape... so THAT aspect might potentially slow down the flow a bit. And then beyond that, making it a "two step process" like that would also slow down the flow through a little bit. Not a "big" issue, but still, "an" issue to consider at least. That said, operating slow and quiet is usually faster than fast and noisy! SLOW is FAST! Cattle hitting that hard stop at a run can be pretty noisy, and cause a ruckus... which also impacts all those that are yet to come through... Clanging and banging, and chutes moving around from those kind of hard impacts have their own negatives to the operation, for sure!
 
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Im a Priefert owner and have no interest in rear controls. Putting the cows in the chute then working the headgate is a much better system, when it works.

I want them to just focus on a a solid product at a reasonable price like they have been doing. They made one positive change I can see from the pic and that is the bottom plates.

Hopefully they dont try to compete with Arrow and have a fancy, faulty chute.
I'm curious too @Brute 23 , what features is it of the ArrowQuip chute that you find to be faulty... I'm not in any way trying to pick on you with this question... I really want to know what you find to be "sub-par" about them. They just "improved" their headcatch latch system... any thoughts about that change? Or their old latch system? Or anything else that you like/don't like about them.
 
I'm curious too @Brute 23 , what features is it of the ArrowQuip chute that you find to be faulty... I'm not in any way trying to pick on you with this question... I really want to know what you find to be "sub-par" about them. They just "improved" their headcatch latch system... any thoughts about that change? Or their old latch system? Or anything else that you like/don't like about them.
Yes the ability to hold an animal. They are notorious for slipping.

Thats nice that they put a new latch but what about all the people who have had issues with the old set up and had to get rid of them. One guy was telling me he called them and they told him their latches were only good for like 300 hundred catches or some thing. When he told them that was like one day for him they told him he needed a hydraulic chute.
 
@Brute 23, do you mean the bottom access doors? I kind of thought that might be a negative, although because of the larger size (longer", maybe the would need to split that door. If you only open one, (assume the rear... is that front one then in the way and in a place where you could get your arm whacked up against it by a kicker? These bottom panels are made to swing out, hinged on the ends. Will they strike the ground, if you don't have the chute "squeezed" to tilt the side panel inward? Looks to me like that panel is slanted out on top pretty good... And then if you open it, they're sticking out there in your way potentially, where with the old style, you just removed the whole thing and set it out of the way... They went to a plastic panel in that bottom door... supposedly makes it quieter... because of the frame required to support that plastic, I wouldn't think that it could be any lighter weight.

My concern with putting them in the chute first, and then catching them in the headgate is that some won't enter the chute as readily if they don't see enough daylight out front to escape... so THAT aspect might potentially slow down the flow a bit. And then beyond that, making it a "two step process" like that would also slow down the flow through a little bit. Not a "big" issue, but still, "an" issue to consider at least. That said, operating slow and quiet is usually faster than fast and noisy! SLOW is FAST! Cattle hitting that hard stop at a run can be pretty noisy, and cause a ruckus... which also impacts all those that are yet to come through... Clanging and banging, and chutes moving around from those kind of hard impacts have their own negatives to the operation, for sure!

Time will tell if the new bottom door set up is better or not. The old set up on the so4 drops the whole metal panel. The two latches are crude. I hold one and kick the other with my foot to lay it over and then I end up kneeling on it to band calves. Its not the end of the world but it's crude. Yes it ends up getting slammed back in place. It makes a lot of racket.

Im not sure about the arm deal. Hard to say with out actually using the new one. I think Arrow and most manufacturers are using 2 piece doors on the big chutes. I dont see how you could do one.

Yes there are definitely cattle that dont want to enter like that but there are other ways to keep flow going. Making sure you are letting a cow in as one is going out helps alot. I also think a larger chute makes it easier for them to enter. If you are having to get cows at a run with a hot shot or what ever and the gate open for them to go in you might have other issues. I've been there. I caught them with the front catch or auto catch. It forced me to evaluate the other options to deal with those cattle vs just building a facility around them.
 

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