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Sold two cull bulls yesterday, for more than I paid for them. Should allow me to buy one more good bull for next breeding season and hopefully have change left over. Total before deductions $9,944. Used one for 4 years and one for 5. Didn’t think to take a pic of the bulls, really just took the pic so I could remember the details.

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We also sold a cull bull a couple weeks ago... 1.70/lb... all the bulls were in the 1.60-1.75 range that day... He brought what we paid for him plus a little also... with the other old bull we sold earlier, they ought to buy a new one with a little left over... Got another bull sale Sat the 13th at the Culpepper Bull Test station... Son was going over online catalog and picked some out for me to look at. Open house this Sat but doubt I will go as he is away for 5 days and I have all the cow checking etc to do and with 20 degree nights, all the chickens and stuff need extra time for doing waterers and such... So hoping to go early the 13th and look some over...
Glad yours did that good for you @Silver
 
Silver said:
Sold two cull bulls yesterday, for more than I paid for them. Should allow me to buy one more good bull for next breeding season and hopefully have change left over. Total before deductions $9,944. Used one for 4 years and one for 5. Didn’t think to take a pic of the bulls, really just took the pic so I could remember the details.

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Good sale for sure.
Is the 2% shrink figured in to everything that sells?
 
kenny thomas said:
Good sale for sure.
Is the 2% shrink figured in to everything that sells?
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Depends on the deal. For guys that just show up on sale day like me they take a 2% shrink and I think that’s fair. Those bulls had their head in a bale 4 hours prior to sale. Looked to me like all the kill cows and bulls were weighed on the ring scale less 2%.
During the fall run long haul calves might get zero shrink and short haul 3%.
 
To me that's just a giveaway to the buyers. I mean gee wiz, they have already shrunk quite a bit from the loading and shipping process. After all the shrink is mostly water which will be regained a hour after unloading when put with a water trough.
 
bird dog said:
To me that's just a giveaway to the buyers. I mean gee wiz, they have already shrunk quite a bit from the loading and shipping process. After all the shrink is mostly water which will be regained a hour after unloading when put with a water trough.
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If you have butchered a beef you would find a lot of the contents in the paunch that takes a long time to exit the system. They do not want to pay for fill. It has always been that way and always will.
 
The digestive contents is one of only a few things from a beef that is not edible. The packers do not want to handle anything they pay for for free.

It is interesting to check the ''drop value'' on cattle. It amounts to several dollars per head. That is why the big packers can get more $ of product from a beef.Your local butcher pays to ''dispose'' of the drop and the big plants find a market for it.
 
mwj said:
The digestive contents is one of only a few things from a beef that is not edible. The packers do not want to handle anything they pay for for free.

It is interesting to check the ''drop value'' on cattle. It amounts to several dollars per head. That is why the big packers can get more $ of product from a beef.Your local butcher pays to ''dispose'' of the drop and the big plants find a market for it.
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I’ve always heard that referred to as the 5th quarter. Often where the profit is for the big packers.
 
Silver said:
I’ve always heard that referred to as the 5th quarter. Often where the profit is for the big packers.
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Yes that is a common term a bit like a ''rick of wood''. The volume of the byproduct is enormous and markets change. I can remember when a good ''hide'' would cover the kill charge on a beef. There is not much profit left and they are hard to handle.I can not imagine what a stack of 5000 hides from one days kill would look like.
 
mwj said:
Yes that is a common term a bit like a ''rick of wood''. The volume of the byproduct is enormous and markets change. I can remember when a good ''hide'' would cover the kill charge on a beef. There is not much profit left and they are hard to handle.I can not imagine what a stack of 5000 hides from one days kill would look like.
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What do they do with the hides if there is no market for them "as" hides? I'm picturing some kind of machine that grinds them up so they can dry and become fertilizer... but I don't know.
 
Sale barns around here do not charge you "shrink". However, lot of people haul them in a day ahead of the sale, and they are penned with no food or water. They call it "dry lotted", and the auctioneer will announce that when they come in the ring. The "dry lot" calves will bring a little more per pound. Probably works out about the same as the ones who charge "shrink".
 
Warren Allison said:
Sale barns around here do not charge you "shrink". However, lot of people haul them in a day ahead of the sale, and they are penned with no food or water. They call it "dry lotted", and the auctioneer will announce that when they come in the ring. The "dry lot" calves will bring a little more per pound. Probably works out about the same as the ones who charge "shrink".
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I love buying the calves brought in the evening before. 25 or 30 lb lost at these prices means $100+ per calf savings.
 
Sale barns I sell at feed and water anything brought in before the day of sale. Mine arrive Monday and sell Wednesday, so they get a few meals at the salebarn.
 
Travlr said:
What do they do with the hides if there is no market for them "as" hides? I'm picturing some kind of machine that grinds them up so they can dry and become fertilizer... but I don't know.
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A lot are exported, but the problem is freight and labor. Look in this country and look at the amount of leather that is used. The other thing is you have a lot of scrap left after you cut the premium parts of the hide.
 
chevytaHOE5674 said:
Sale barns I sell at feed and water anything brought in before the day of sale. Mine arrive Monday and sell Wednesday, so they get a few meals at the salebarn.
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Majority of the calves in this area are straight off the cows and have never seen feed. Some come in after 4pm on Friday and sell about 1pm on Saturday. They have access to hay and water until about 8am but usually just walk the pen and bawl. I have weighed several as they come in just to see what the weight loss actually is. Calves usually loose 25 to 30, cows 50 to 70, bulls 75 to 100.
It seems that when delivering like you do 2 days before the calves get hungry the second day and actually fill back up some.
 

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