Ohlde's bull sale just happened this weekend. One of the most "famous" angus breeders in the country that seems to have a complete disregard for EPDs other than $EN. Very interesting. I can't say that they even did all the genomic testing from what I could tell. Then you see other programs like SAV and Coleman that seem to have a similar disregard - but perhaps not to the same extent. Who else would produce and use a bull like Charlo to that extent and be successful doing it!!?!?!