Americans with Government care listen up........
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Howdyjabo":38cxzrlo said:I may be looking at this wrong- but don't we need some motivation to get your life together and get off subsidized insurance? Young families and the self employed need some help with insurance costs to get going, but it shouldn't be their goal to stay there.
The way some people tell it, they are one and the same.......Chuckie":1h6l6xne said:God let people live on earth for hundreds of years. Obama gives 65.
Jogeephus":14pb7gpx said:Stop giving preferential treatment to foreigners who use our colleges and open the slots to our citizens. We are the one's who paid for these universities so it only seems right that our citizens benefit from them. Lowering the standards is foolish.
backhoeboogie":83jfpe95 said:Jogeephus":83jfpe95 said:Stop giving preferential treatment to foreigners who use our colleges and open the slots to our citizens. We are the one's who paid for these universities so it only seems right that our citizens benefit from them. Lowering the standards is foolish.
Why are you not running for office? I need someone like you to cast a vote for.
Jogeephus said:To give an example of what I'm referring to about the upcoming dual level health care system you only need to look to California. They are now offering a 3 year program for doctors. This is less time than it takes to become a veterinarian. Milkmaid, I mean no disrespect to you or any other vets but do we as a country think more of our pets and livestock than we do our citizens when it comes to their care/quote]
I've often said Vets are much better Dr's. then many of those who graduate from medical schools. They diagnose the problem without talking to the patient.
I could give example after example of Dr's. who don't know how to diagnose, treat the problem or treat the pationt.
Jogeephus":19jun1qo said:I talked to a doctor who was concerned with the way things were heading. He said since they have such strict billing caps and are so slow to pay he would most likely not accept patients with Obamacare. If you read between the lines I think the government may be scared of this too which is why they are trying to lower the standards of what requires a doctor's services. It may just be me but if I have to go to the doctor I want to see a doctor and not a nurse, or a nurse practitioner or a physicians assistant. So if I'm seeing this correctly it looks like in the future there will those with excellent health care and those who have to go to Walmart or a pharmacy for their needs. I just hope to be able to have the same care as our public servants do. Now that would be nice.
fitz":3s082v0d said:Jogeephus":3s082v0d said:I talked to a doctor who was concerned with the way things were heading. He said since they have such strict billing caps and are so slow to pay he would most likely not accept patients with Obamacare. If you read between the lines I think the government may be scared of this too which is why they are trying to lower the standards of what requires a doctor's services. It may just be me but if I have to go to the doctor I want to see a doctor and not a nurse, or a nurse practitioner or a physicians assistant. So if I'm seeing this correctly it looks like in the future there will those with excellent health care and those who have to go to Walmart or a pharmacy for their needs. I just hope to be able to have the same care as our public servants do. Now that would be nice.
I have to have an individual plan for myself. My current provider sent me a new plan (with a new price) to meet the requirements of the OCA. I also reviewed some plans on the Gov. website.
I found the same plan with the same price as the one my provider suggested. I quess what I'm saying is, I don't know how the Doctors would know the difference.
I agree with you on the single payer plan.
fitz
Jogeephus":1xd4ajah said:I think what he was telling me is that he could not afford to subsidize any more his work like he does on Medicare. In the case of a private insurance if the insurance does not pay the full amount the patient is charged the difference but under this pay schedule he would have to eat it all and he could not charge the difference to the patient so when you've built your practice up where you have all the patients you need why would you take more patients you'll lose money on. This, I think, is what he was talking about and if this continues then we will have a two tiered system of health care. Three actually. One for the government, one for the people who can pay and one for those who cannot pay and its no puzzle where the best doctors will be.