Has anyone had any experience working with these groups that sell beef this way?
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@Stonewall Joe and @greybeard, I don't have experience with them, but this is a classic example of a 'niche market' much the same (which it seems they are actually doing in part anyway) an 'all natural' or 'organic' market is. Niche markets like this add a few constraints to the producer to comply with the 'selling points' of the niche, but the returns as you can see by the $9.00/lb plus average market price of the product more than compensates for the added compliance (usually, as certified 'organic' actually gets the government involved which results in more hoops than what some producers want to deal with, but 'all natural' has very few regulations). These niche markets have an added benefit in that they are much more stable than the comodity market and do not have near the swings of selling price per pound. Add to that, demand for the product always (never heard of a surplus anyway) exceeds supply. I'd say it would be a good thing to get into/be involved with. They are difficult to break into sometimes and/or get started though as they are often localized and/or take a little time to build a client base. It requires marketing skill that a lot/most producers don't have or don't want to put time into......or aren't located in an area where it can work.I think the packaging, the marketing and message has a lot to do with it. I agree the price seems pretty high, but it looks like someone has found a market that is willing to pay for it. I just don't know how much is being sold. It does look like the "prepper" market is getting stronger and their willingness to buy this and similar products is strong.
I understand that it's processed in one manner or the other, and I sure don't claim to be an expert on that but it looks as if there's a great bit more profit in getting hooked up into that venue (however that is done) than loading steers on a trailer and going to the sale barn with others selling a similar product at wholesale pricingIt's freeze-dried or cooked. That brings a whole new reason as to why it's so pricey.
You got it. Profit and stability (lack of market swings) with a niche market.I understand that it's processed in one manner or the other, and I sure don't claim to be an expert on that but it looks as if there's a great bit more profit in getting hooked up into that venue (however that is done) than loading steers on a trailer and going to the sale barn with others selling a similar product at wholesale pricing
CSG annual mixes undoubtedly will add accelerated gains. Animals have more maintenance requirements over the winter so I'd expect the gains to be somewhat less. WSG annual mixes can produce some pretty phenomenal results, but over 3 lbs per day? That doesn't seem quite possible to me. If you are weighing animals one day and then weighing them the next, there is a whole variety of factors that could appear to show weight gain is that, but they aren't reflective of actual growth. Water intake, slight dehydration and gut fill come to mind. I've heard of over 2 with summer annuals which is phenomenal of itself (2.3-2.5), but over 3?Fairly priced IMO. For all parties involved.
In high population areas I see people selling their grass finished beef for 8 to 12 bucks per carcass pound. And supposedly they sell out rather easily. I'd have trouble charging that much myself. I sold mine for 5.50 hanging pound and it was well received. Just got to get the length of time it takes to get one to finished weight worked out. Grazing annual mixes has been on my mind. Have read of 3+ pound per day gains on yearling grazing summer mixes. I imagine cool season mixes would do the same?
I do think direct marketing, if you can do the marketing side effectively, is the best way to make a profit with cattle right now. My corn finished are 4.50 plus processing. That comes out to about $3,375 on an 750 lb carcass. Jeanne's recipe for a13 month timeline to finished weight is a home run.
I haven't seen it first hand. Just heard on some podcasts of people getting yearlings gaining like that on warm season mixes. I'd be tickled to death with 2.5.CSG annual mixes undoubtedly will add accelerated gains. Animals have more maintenance requirements over the winter so I'd expect the gains to be somewhat less. WSG annual mixes can produce some pretty phenomenal results, but over 3 lbs per day? That doesn't seem quite possible to me. If you are weighing animals one day and then weighing them the next, there is a whole variety of factors that could appear to show weight gain is that, but they aren't reflective of actual growth. Water intake, slight dehydration and gut fill come to mind. I've heard of over 2 with summer annuals which is phenomenal of itself (2.3-2.5), but over 3?
Anyone should be. I just think over 3 is 'pie in the sky'.I haven't seen it first hand. Just heard on some podcasts of people getting yearlings gaining like that on warm season mixes. I'd be tickled to death with 2.5.
The first thing you should do is to soil test. Dont start planting and wonder why your not getting 3lb per day.BTW, the more species in the mix, the better your results will be. I'm talking 7-11 way mixes, not 2-3. They do exist and are planted. They are phenomenal.
Definitely. I'd considered going ahead and planting cool and warm season stuff together in one go if I try this.BTW, the more species in the mix, the better your results will be. I'm talking 7-11 way mixes, not 2-3. They do exist and are planted. They are phenomenal.
Their website (on the checkout/deposit page says it would be between 400-440 lbs for a whole beef.How many lbs of saleable beef would that kind of processing yield?