In Response to Dixie, We have some calves on the ground out of LD Capitalist 316. They are definitely one of my favorite groups so far. They were born small ,but not as small as Epds might suggest. They have all thickened out extremely well. They are only a month or so old but are structurally correct and some of the thickest tops and hind quarters. We used Tex Playbook, HA Cowboy Up, Jindra Acclaim,Coleman Charlo so they definitely hold their own or even outperform some popular sires out there. Like torogmc said, check out Musgrave Angus Facebook page. They have a sale this weekend, with many videos of offspring.