2-4D or round up in pond for weeds

[BobbyLummus1]

Hydrilla is taken over pond mostly around the edges , really thick on shallow end , I have lots of round up and 24-d on hand , will this work to spray . Pond is stocked and would like to keep my fish . Was told by local oldtimer these chemicals will work . Just do 1/4 of pond at a time and try and get out the the stuff as it dies ( oxygen ) . Could spend the money and go the with the pond specific chemicals

 

[dun]

Roundup would be the choice. He is right about clearing the dead stuff and only doing a part of the pond at a time. There is a product expressly for weeds in ponds, it's basically roundup with a different name. There is also an outfit that sells pond specific stuff, I think it';s somthing like "pondweeds.com"

 

[Caustic Burno]

Rodeo is made to use in ponds

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/rodeo ... aQodf1AA2w

 

[True Grit Farms]

Rodeo is made to use in ponds

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/rodeo ... aQodf1AA2w

Roundup is off label for pond us, but is the same thing as Rodeo.

 

[greybeard]

Different variations of glyphosate concentration and probably different "other' or 'inert' ingredients.



Eraser AQ

 

[Ebenezer]

Rodeo is made to use in ponds

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/rodeo ... aQodf1AA2w

Roundup is off label for pond us, but is the same thing as Rodeo.

If much Roundup or generic gets in the water it can hurt the eyes of fish. Something about the carrier in the two is different.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Rodeo is made to use in ponds

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/rodeo ... aQodf1AA2w

Roundup is off label for pond us, but is the same thing as Rodeo.

There is no such thing as off label use of herbicides that's a violation that can cost you dearly.

 

[TennesseeTuxedo]

Would you still use dish washing liquid as your surfactant in this application?

 

[lavacarancher]

Last question first. Yes, soap can be used as a surfactant. As far as the pond weeds are concerned there are several products used for different weeds. For example Cutrin is used for some types of floating weeds (not all) and is very effective. Filamentacious algae is one.It is a chelated copper product and there are several generic chelated copper products available. Some of the Glyphosates formulated for use in ponds are effective for control of pond weeds with roots (not all). CB is spot on in his statement about off label use of herbicides for any applications. GB is also right in his statement on formulations of the same product with different names.

I fought filamentacious algae all summer long in one of my ponds. One time treatment and it worked for a short period of time. Treated again and nothing. Finally gave up and bought 500 tilapia and put in two of my stocked ponds. If they make it through the Winter we'll see next year if mother natures way of pond weed control works. The tilapia fish method was certainly MUCH cheaper than trying to treat with chemicals and maybe more effective. I also have triploid grass carp in both my ponds for control of different types of weeds and it is very effective and much cheaper.

Not trying to tell you what to do but maybe you need to take some pictures of the weed and send them to your nearest university ag department for them to identify and have them make a recommendation as to what to use. Many of the ponds weeds look so much alike but are treated with different chemicals. Good luck.

 

[dun]

Last question first. Yes, soap can be used as a surfactant. As far as the pond weeds are concerned there are several products used for different weeds. For example Cutrin is used for some types of floating weeds (not all) and is very effective. Filamentacious algae is one.It is a chelated copper product and there are several generic chelated copper products available. Some of the Glyphosates formulated for use in ponds are effective for control of pond weeds with roots (not all). CB is spot on in his statement about off label use of herbicides for any applications. GB is also right in his statement on formulations of the same product with different names.

I fought filamentacious algae all summer long in one of my ponds. One time treatment and it worked for a short period of time. Treated again and nothing. Finally gave up and bought 500 tilapia and put in two of my stocked ponds. If they make it through the Winter we'll see next year if mother natures way of pond weed control works. The tilapia fish method was certainly MUCH cheaper than trying to treat with chemicals and maybe more effective. I also have triploid grass carp in both my ponds for control of different types of weeds and it is very effective and much cheaper.

Not trying to tell you what to do but maybe you need to take some pictures of the weed and send them to your nearest university ag department for them to identify and have them make a recommendation as to what to use. Many of the ponds weeds look so much alike but are treated with different chemicals. Good luck.

For filemntious alge we just use copper sulphate granules. At our other farm the problem was spatterdock, roundup took care of that. The current algae problem is an on going yearly problem. Been fighting it for 15 years. Got a couple og huge grass carp in the pond and the algae is the only weed growing in it.

 

[lavacarancher]

Last question first. Yes, soap can be used as a surfactant. As far as the pond weeds are concerned there are several products used for different weeds. For example Cutrin is used for some types of floating weeds (not all) and is very effective. Filamentacious algae is one.It is a chelated copper product and there are several generic chelated copper products available. Some of the Glyphosates formulated for use in ponds are effective for control of pond weeds with roots (not all). CB is spot on in his statement about off label use of herbicides for any applications. GB is also right in his statement on formulations of the same product with different names.

I fought filamentacious algae all summer long in one of my ponds. One time treatment and it worked for a short period of time. Treated again and nothing. Finally gave up and bought 500 tilapia and put in two of my stocked ponds. If they make it through the Winter we'll see next year if mother natures way of pond weed control works. The tilapia fish method was certainly MUCH cheaper than trying to treat with chemicals and maybe more effective. I also have triploid grass carp in both my ponds for control of different types of weeds and it is very effective and much cheaper.

Not trying to tell you what to do but maybe you need to take some pictures of the weed and send them to your nearest university ag department for them to identify and have them make a recommendation as to what to use. Many of the ponds weeds look so much alike but are treated with different chemicals. Good luck.

For filemntious alge we just use copper sulphate granules. At our other farm the problem was spatterdock, roundup took care of that. The current algae problem is an on going yearly problem. Been fighting it for 15 years. Got a couple og huge grass carp in the pond and the algae is the only weed growing in it.

Yes sir, you are right. The tilapia are supposed to be voracious eaters of the algae but we'll see next year when the water temperature starts coming back up and the algae starts to grow again.

 

[dun]

I wonder if tilapia would work or if the bass and catfish would think they are just a plentiful snack

 

[True Grit Farms]

Rodeo is made to use in ponds

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/rodeo ... aQodf1AA2w

Roundup is off label for pond us, but is the same thing as Rodeo.

There is no such thing as off label use of herbicides that's a violation that can cost you dearly.

That's the reason I said off label and didn't say to or not to use Roundup in a pond. Trust me I have the pond herbicides figured out. And the fish even survived.

 

[Caustic Burno]

I wonder if tilapia would work or if the bass and catfish would think they are just a plentiful snack

They do seem to be tasty till they get big enough. They work real well big drawback is they can't take cold weather and die. Have to stock them every year they grow really fast.
Indian runner ducks work well also

 

[Caustic Burno]

Roundup is off label for pond us, but is the same thing as Rodeo.

There is no such thing as off label use of herbicides that's a violation that can cost you dearly.

That's the reason I said off label and didn't say to or not to use Roundup in a pond. Trust me I have the pond herbicides figured out. And the fish even survived.

Trust me when you find the EPA going through your pasture checking the stream that feeds my and the neighbors ponds your mind will get right on chemical use quick.

 

[dun]

I wonder if tilapia would work or if the bass and catfish would think they are just a plentiful snack

They do seem to be tasty till they get big enough. They work real well big drawback is they can't take cold weather and die. Have to stock them every year they grow really fast.
Indian runner ducks work well also

I don;t think Indian Runners could outrun the abundance of yotes, foxes and bobcats around here.

 

[Caustic Burno]

I wonder if tilapia would work or if the bass and catfish would think they are just a plentiful snack

They do seem to be tasty till they get big enough. They work real well big drawback is they can't take cold weather and die. Have to stock them every year they grow really fast.
Indian runner ducks work well also

I don;t think Indian Runners could outrun the abundance of yotes, foxes and bobcats around here.

They did okay on my bigger pond the small one not as well.
My losses were heaviest to a great horned owl

 

[True Grit Farms]

There is no such thing as off label use of herbicides that's a violation that can cost you dearly.

That's the reason I said off label and didn't say to or not to use Roundup in a pond. Trust me I have the pond herbicides figured out. And the fish even survived.

Trust me when you find the EPA going through your pasture checking the stream that feeds my and the neighbors ponds your mind will get right on chemical use quick.

 

[True Grit Farms]

There is no such thing as off label use of herbicides that's a violation that can cost you dearly.

That's the reason I said off label and didn't say to or not to use Roundup in a pond. Trust me I have the pond herbicides figured out. And the fish even survived.

Trust me when you find the EPA going through your pasture checking the stream that feeds my and the neighbors ponds your mind will get right on chemical use quick.

That will be the death of me.

 

[greybeard]

That will be the death of me.

Not if you've kept records of your spray activity and remained compliant with the annual limits on application rates--and stayed on label.

It's rare that an agency will come out and start looking on a landowner's practice's--they generally start somewhere else--downstream on public water. A few year's ago, I went into town and noticed a couple of vans sitting by the bridge of the little river that forms my East property line. Since they were parked in front of a rarely used gate entrance, but were traipsing around on the area between my fence and the actaul channel, (my property), I stopped and asked what they were doing.
They were a group from TAMU that had been given a grant and mandate from Texas Commission on Environmental Quality to assess the amount of pollution in that river's water. Told me their results would be forwarded to TCEQ and EPA and if anything showed up, they would start backtracking upstream to find the source(s).

Because that river is there, and my pond's overflow empties into that river, I stay fully compliant. That river joins the West Fork, and empties into Lake Houston which is 1 of 2 sources of fresh water for towns downstream, including Houston. I have no real love for the imbeciles in Houston or Harris County, but I feel they do have a right to clean water.

(I just wish the State would keep their damn river off my pastures--they want my excess water but I do not want theirs)