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Actually that was a son.. I'd go with the original: https://www.universalsemensales.com/breeds/angus/werner-war-party-2417

War Party fits all your criteria. If I ever dabble in AI again, he's on my list. https://genebrokers.com/product/werner-war-party-1472/

Breed CC&7 to a Water Buffalo and you'll be able to halter break its calf

I've seen some great looking NW offspring but very few didn't have a poor disposition. Really considered a son several years ago at an auction until he nearly butted a ringman out of the pen.. bidding dried up after that and I sat on my hands 😅

Still would have to go with 7229. Helluva bull.

Got curious and looked up the power drive bull. Nice looking bull!

Connealy Consensus 7229

That's a shame. Every calf I saw out of him looked really nice.

Still would have to go with 7229. Helluva bull.

Like impression, reflection, mentor, and capitalist. Got to give it to 7229 though. Never seen any progeny that I didn't like, and he's got a lot of daughters and sons out there so that's saying something.

Way Party is an excellent choice

I have several Bruiser daughters in production. This is a first timer with a calf sired by a Hereford bull. They have made good cows so far. They hold condition well, no docility issues, and good enough milk production ( which was my main concern with Bruiser).

I had a son several years ago. Still have many cows in the herd sired by this bull. Good udders, great dispositions, very fertile

Perhaps you'd like this son then..I do. http://origenbeef.org/semen_detail.php?bull=994

Sounds like we feel about the same way towards sav and deer valley. If you don’t mind me asking, what breeders/bulls are you getting good females from? Personally I use a lot of connealy. 7229, right answer, century, Irish, and a few others. Also have quite a few SS Chisum 6175 daughters in...

Wow is that clover that he's standing in in the pic? Can't wait for spring..

Make one like that under 90# BW though and I'm very interested. :cboy:

I agree, very nice calf! Count me in the camp of too heavy of a bw to leave intact though. I've been through the hard calving nightmare, and I ain't going back. 90 lbs act BW is where I draw the line for a bull.

Thanks makes sense now. I might still consider using homo black Limo or Gelbvieh for a three way cross to maximize hybrid vigor, but I think the selection of AI bulls in these breeds are limited. May get as much growth with these new high powered terminal Angus sires anyway..

True if you're breeding for strictly terminal these aren't the right bulls for you. Of course if you're breeding for terminal, WTH are you using Angus for anyway?!? Char, Sim, or Limo should be your bulls of choice