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<blockquote data-quote="TexasBred" data-source="post: 850731" data-attributes="member: 6897"><p>Sorry I was so short Tom. Look at your list of ingredients. The 1st ingredient is usually has the highest inclusion rate in the mix. I personally always want that ingredient to be "Grain Products". Neither of these feeds has one drop of grain in them. They do have a lot of grain by-products which may or may not be high quality ingredients and the feed from Southern States Livestock is extremely high in fiber. From the guarantee on the potassium (1.2% and that's high) I'm assuming that is soyhulls which are a good ingredient up to certain levels. The other is lower fiber but higher fat so probably utilizes a lot of rice bran since there is no indication of any source of added fat. Phosphorus level is adequate in both but with the one with the highest level of fiber most of the ph. is "unavailable" if the source is soyhulls. Vitamins in both are inadequate, there is absolutely no guarantee on any of the trace minerals although the list of ingredients does show that there are "some" added. </p><p></p><p>Here's a tag off a feed I've fed in the past. Most companies now use all inclusive terms for ingredients but this place still list exact ingredients and will show you the formulation so I know it has plenty of energy, TDN, vitamins, minerals, etc. </p><p></p><p>Crude Protein Min) 14.00%</p><p>Crude Fat (Min) 3.00%</p><p>Crude Fiber (Max) 10.00%</p><p>Acid Detergent Fiber (Max) 9.00%</p><p>Calcium (Min) .80%</p><p>Calcium (Max) 1.00%</p><p>Phosphorus (Min) .50%</p><p>Salt (Min) .50%</p><p>Salt (Max) .60%</p><p>Zinc (Min) 180 ppm</p><p>Copper (Min) 30.00 ppm</p><p>Copper (Max) 40.00 ppm</p><p>Selenium (Min) .60 ppm</p><p>Vitamin A (Min) 10,000 IU/lb</p><p>Vitamin E 20 IU/lb</p><p>INGREDIENTS:</p><p>Ground Yellow Corn, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Wheat Middlings, Ground Soyhulls, Dry Distillers Grains, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Rice Bran, Calcium Carbonate , Salt , Vitamin E Supplement , Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Potassium Chloride, Manganous Oxide, Ferrous Carbonate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Sodium Selenite, Cane Molasses , Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Copper Amino Acid Complex, Cobalt Glucoheptone,Magnesium Oxide and Yeast Products.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TexasBred, post: 850731, member: 6897"] Sorry I was so short Tom. Look at your list of ingredients. The 1st ingredient is usually has the highest inclusion rate in the mix. I personally always want that ingredient to be "Grain Products". Neither of these feeds has one drop of grain in them. They do have a lot of grain by-products which may or may not be high quality ingredients and the feed from Southern States Livestock is extremely high in fiber. From the guarantee on the potassium (1.2% and that's high) I'm assuming that is soyhulls which are a good ingredient up to certain levels. The other is lower fiber but higher fat so probably utilizes a lot of rice bran since there is no indication of any source of added fat. Phosphorus level is adequate in both but with the one with the highest level of fiber most of the ph. is "unavailable" if the source is soyhulls. Vitamins in both are inadequate, there is absolutely no guarantee on any of the trace minerals although the list of ingredients does show that there are "some" added. Here's a tag off a feed I've fed in the past. Most companies now use all inclusive terms for ingredients but this place still list exact ingredients and will show you the formulation so I know it has plenty of energy, TDN, vitamins, minerals, etc. Crude Protein Min) 14.00% Crude Fat (Min) 3.00% Crude Fiber (Max) 10.00% Acid Detergent Fiber (Max) 9.00% Calcium (Min) .80% Calcium (Max) 1.00% Phosphorus (Min) .50% Salt (Min) .50% Salt (Max) .60% Zinc (Min) 180 ppm Copper (Min) 30.00 ppm Copper (Max) 40.00 ppm Selenium (Min) .60 ppm Vitamin A (Min) 10,000 IU/lb Vitamin E 20 IU/lb INGREDIENTS: Ground Yellow Corn, Dehulled Soybean Meal, Wheat Middlings, Ground Soyhulls, Dry Distillers Grains, Dehydrated Alfalfa Meal, Rice Bran, Calcium Carbonate , Salt , Vitamin E Supplement , Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Potassium Chloride, Manganous Oxide, Ferrous Carbonate, Ferrous Sulfate, Zinc Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Ethylenediamine Dihydriodide, Sodium Selenite, Cane Molasses , Zinc Amino Acid Complex, Manganese Amino Acid Complex, Copper Amino Acid Complex, Cobalt Glucoheptone,Magnesium Oxide and Yeast Products. [/QUOTE]
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