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What's hybrid vigor? This baby is PUREBRED ANGUS!
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<blockquote data-quote="CattleMan1920" data-source="post: 1591816" data-attributes="member: 37967"><p>The great thing about posting on Cattle Today is that your post lives forever, so I will either be right about Angus or really wrong, and it will be documented so it can be referred to in the future. </p><p></p><p>As for milk. I may be crazy, but I've always been under the impression that cows that excel in that department raise a nice calf. In fact, James Lingle Of Wye Angus said milk was one of the most important things he looked for in a cow. What the heck did he know? Or me for that matter...</p><p></p><p>As for the hybrid vigor discussion. I will say it again, people are cross breeding all around me, but they aren't getting the deep bodied, high performance females that I produce. </p><p></p><p>Recently a client called me and we chatted about his calf crop, he told me that he didn't pull a single one, the calves have really good growth, and vigor. Big deal you may say, that's to be expected, right? Here is what I found interesting, after seeing his success, he had some people he knows tell him, you should have used a Balancer or Gelbvieh, the Angus is going to cause you problems. He told me that he had to disagree, the calves were better than most anything he had in the past, when using Gelbvieh. The recommendation to avoid Angus was based on personal preference, not fact, that's a problem, and he recognized that the advice he was getting was misguided at best. Not to mention his bull has the CAB "Targeting the Brand" logo, which means his Marb and $G are above breed average. Can his other advisers give him a good idea of the carcass traits that their suggestions bring to the table? Are they even DNA tested? Who knows? You guys think I'm only breeding for size but I'm highly focused on carcass and judging from how many of my cattle have the logo, I'm on the right track. </p><p></p><p>If Angus is in trouble as the Doc proclaims, then I'm prepared to go down with the ship. I think he sounds more Chicken Little than anything. Angus isn't going anywhere, except maybe up.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CattleMan1920, post: 1591816, member: 37967"] The great thing about posting on Cattle Today is that your post lives forever, so I will either be right about Angus or really wrong, and it will be documented so it can be referred to in the future. As for milk. I may be crazy, but I’ve always been under the impression that cows that excel in that department raise a nice calf. In fact, James Lingle Of Wye Angus said milk was one of the most important things he looked for in a cow. What the heck did he know? Or me for that matter... As for the hybrid vigor discussion. I will say it again, people are cross breeding all around me, but they aren’t getting the deep bodied, high performance females that I produce. Recently a client called me and we chatted about his calf crop, he told me that he didn’t pull a single one, the calves have really good growth, and vigor. Big deal you may say, that’s to be expected, right? Here is what I found interesting, after seeing his success, he had some people he knows tell him, you should have used a Balancer or Gelbvieh, the Angus is going to cause you problems. He told me that he had to disagree, the calves were better than most anything he had in the past, when using Gelbvieh. The recommendation to avoid Angus was based on personal preference, not fact, that’s a problem, and he recognized that the advice he was getting was misguided at best. Not to mention his bull has the CAB “Targeting the Brand” logo, which means his Marb and $G are above breed average. Can his other advisers give him a good idea of the carcass traits that their suggestions bring to the table? Are they even DNA tested? Who knows? You guys think I’m only breeding for size but I’m highly focused on carcass and judging from how many of my cattle have the logo, I’m on the right track. If Angus is in trouble as the Doc proclaims, then I’m prepared to go down with the ship. I think he sounds more Chicken Little than anything. Angus isn’t going anywhere, except maybe up. [/QUOTE]
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