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<blockquote data-quote="Twisted" data-source="post: 1836920" data-attributes="member: 43517"><p>I over seeded a particularly bad section back in late Spring with a mixture of winter rye, barnyard, orchard grass, red clover and novel tall fescue. It was so barren that I didn't think I would get anything to grow on it. If it weren't for the rocks moss and cactus all over it, it would have been a big wash. I picked up tons of rocks out of it, graded it, out took out a couple of big cedars, 2 were already on the ground from the wind, and seeded it. I didn't till or spray anything on it, just over seeded it and built a drag out out chain-link fence and an old gate someone before me had made out of an industrial pallet rack. I drug the rake across it several times and waited about 2 weeks on a decent enough rain to get it up. I only wish the rest of the place looked as good.</p><p></p><p>I am in the middle of some of the biggest cattle producers in the state, their pastures make mine look like it has the mange. I am taking a little advice from them and mixing it with my pocketbook to try and get a reasonable facsimile of theirs. We will see. Soil testing has been ordered to determine where and how much chicken litter to apply. It won't come until April when they clean out the house. I have learned recently that the litter in the newer operations is treated to reduce the ammonia, so it doesn't burn the chicken's feet and the time between cleanings has been extended to a year. The hay producers here are saying you still will have to hit it with Urea after the litter because of the reduced nitrogen in the litter but not near what it would need without the litter.</p><p></p><p>I asked the questions about over seeding the patches of good grass because I wonder if the established grass will give the seed a chance to get established, I'm a bit afraid to disk it because I don't want to resurrect any more buried rocks. and that drag isn't going to do much good over the grass that's there. </p><p></p><p>I used another tried and true method to determine how much good grass I have, I let the cows decide. There are some areas of the pasture with decent native grass cover that don't have a hoof print in it. Those areas cost me the same as the good grass areas, with no return on investment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Twisted, post: 1836920, member: 43517"] I over seeded a particularly bad section back in late Spring with a mixture of winter rye, barnyard, orchard grass, red clover and novel tall fescue. It was so barren that I didn't think I would get anything to grow on it. If it weren't for the rocks moss and cactus all over it, it would have been a big wash. I picked up tons of rocks out of it, graded it, out took out a couple of big cedars, 2 were already on the ground from the wind, and seeded it. I didn't till or spray anything on it, just over seeded it and built a drag out out chain-link fence and an old gate someone before me had made out of an industrial pallet rack. I drug the rake across it several times and waited about 2 weeks on a decent enough rain to get it up. I only wish the rest of the place looked as good. I am in the middle of some of the biggest cattle producers in the state, their pastures make mine look like it has the mange. I am taking a little advice from them and mixing it with my pocketbook to try and get a reasonable facsimile of theirs. We will see. Soil testing has been ordered to determine where and how much chicken litter to apply. It won't come until April when they clean out the house. I have learned recently that the litter in the newer operations is treated to reduce the ammonia, so it doesn't burn the chicken's feet and the time between cleanings has been extended to a year. The hay producers here are saying you still will have to hit it with Urea after the litter because of the reduced nitrogen in the litter but not near what it would need without the litter. I asked the questions about over seeding the patches of good grass because I wonder if the established grass will give the seed a chance to get established, I'm a bit afraid to disk it because I don't want to resurrect any more buried rocks. and that drag isn't going to do much good over the grass that's there. I used another tried and true method to determine how much good grass I have, I let the cows decide. There are some areas of the pasture with decent native grass cover that don't have a hoof print in it. Those areas cost me the same as the good grass areas, with no return on investment. [/QUOTE]
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