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<blockquote data-quote="Jeanne - Simme Valley" data-source="post: 1823328" data-attributes="member: 968"><p>Not to discriminate, but a Lowline cow is probably not the direction you want to go. Her calf is the best profiled phenotype of the calves you pictured, but how big is it compared to the others.</p><p>Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulder, and are doing a good job for being new at this.</p><p>EPD's are a great TOOL, but each breed association has their own standards. Like, a +12 CE in Simmental, may be a whole lot different than a +12 CE for Angus.</p><p>You may have a good Angus breeder in your area. There are still quite a few good breeders, but --- there have been a lot of breeders looking at the PAPERS/EPD's more than looking at their cattle.</p><p>Foremost, LOOK at the feet and legs of the bull. You want a BIG ROUND foot. Not narrow pointy hooves like deer. They will be cripple in just a couple of years. You want some bone on their legs - not toothpick legs.</p><p>Obviously, I would recommend a % or PB Black Simmental. But, that's MY breed and I am very bias. But, despite my personal bias, the breed is getting to be the go to breed for the feedlot. </p><p>If you are patient, there are lots of great people to give you advice. You have already gotten quite a bit.</p><p>There are some commercial breeders that could provide you with a perfect bull for your needs. But, be sure to look at their herd/management. Do they know when it was born? Do they know what it weighed? What do THEIR calves in their herd look like? Do they finish their calves or sell? How well did they sell? Look at the dam - very important. Does she have a decent udder - no huge teats, not hanging too low for a calf to get on when born. Remember, her bag will look a LOT worse at calving time. Keep that in mind. How are HER feet/legs? Learn what POST legged cattle look like. You do NOT want that!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeanne - Simme Valley, post: 1823328, member: 968"] Not to discriminate, but a Lowline cow is probably not the direction you want to go. Her calf is the best profiled phenotype of the calves you pictured, but how big is it compared to the others. Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulder, and are doing a good job for being new at this. EPD's are a great TOOL, but each breed association has their own standards. Like, a +12 CE in Simmental, may be a whole lot different than a +12 CE for Angus. You may have a good Angus breeder in your area. There are still quite a few good breeders, but --- there have been a lot of breeders looking at the PAPERS/EPD's more than looking at their cattle. Foremost, LOOK at the feet and legs of the bull. You want a BIG ROUND foot. Not narrow pointy hooves like deer. They will be cripple in just a couple of years. You want some bone on their legs - not toothpick legs. Obviously, I would recommend a % or PB Black Simmental. But, that's MY breed and I am very bias. But, despite my personal bias, the breed is getting to be the go to breed for the feedlot. If you are patient, there are lots of great people to give you advice. You have already gotten quite a bit. There are some commercial breeders that could provide you with a perfect bull for your needs. But, be sure to look at their herd/management. Do they know when it was born? Do they know what it weighed? What do THEIR calves in their herd look like? Do they finish their calves or sell? How well did they sell? Look at the dam - very important. Does she have a decent udder - no huge teats, not hanging too low for a calf to get on when born. Remember, her bag will look a LOT worse at calving time. Keep that in mind. How are HER feet/legs? Learn what POST legged cattle look like. You do NOT want that! [/QUOTE]
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