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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1829457" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>I have always maintained that I am in the horse business first and foremost, the hay business 2nd, and cattle 3rd. But, my grandfather always has Angus cattle, and I helped him in every aspect with this cow-calf operation til he died in 93. About every Saturday, we'd go to the local sale, even if we weren't buying or selling. My grandfather was good friends with 2 of the owners....cousin to one of them.... and very good friends with Mr. Smith, who was what some of y'all call a pin hook. During the sale, my grandpa usually sat with those 2 owners, so I would too. And before the sale, I hung out with Mr. Smith. He brought his grandson that was my age, and we hunbg out all morning. I learned a lot watching and listening to those owners and my grandpa...about this and that cattle in the ring. And I learned a LOT more from Mr. Smith...about buying, selling and trading cattle. His goal was to clear $20 a head, so he gave people pretty close to what they had hoped to get most of the time, so people would actually approach him and ask him iof he wanted to buy their cattle. $20 dont sound like much, but if you buy 50-100 in a day, $1k to $2k was a lot of money to make on a Saturday in the 70's. Trading cattle really got my attention, I already loved horse trading more than anything else to do with them. </p><p></p><p>The only sustained cow-calf operation I ever fooled with was raising Corrs for roping in the 70's and 80's, and Corr - Ang crosses in the 90's when the teampenning craze swept the country. I was contracting to furnishing cattle for these events. You want them polled, and the same color. You have 30 head in the competition, and if you had 27 blacks, a hereford color, a Char and a bwf in there, then you could memorize their number, and get to them quicker and get them out if that number was called. So, that's how I first got involved with Corr x Angus. I have bought beef cows from time to time, and would have calves born before I sold them, etc., but I have never tried to keep a beef herd for year on year, and develop a program like a lot on here do, other than my granddaddy's for a few years before he died. </p><p></p><p> These days, apparently, I am in the business of paying double for nurse cows, and calves to put on them! I told Scott we might have to get another 100 Corr cows and raise another calf crop, to make enough money to fund Zeke's calf business! Right now, I do have those 22 Plummers, and those last 7 Corr cows I bought the last month or so. I am buying 10 of those Black Simm x Chi-Angus heifers, and 10 of the Chi-Angus x Black Simm heifers when they wean in July, but Clay is going to take them to his place, and pay me back as he sells their calves. If I am around in 2026!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1829457, member: 40587"] I have always maintained that I am in the horse business first and foremost, the hay business 2nd, and cattle 3rd. But, my grandfather always has Angus cattle, and I helped him in every aspect with this cow-calf operation til he died in 93. About every Saturday, we'd go to the local sale, even if we weren't buying or selling. My grandfather was good friends with 2 of the owners....cousin to one of them.... and very good friends with Mr. Smith, who was what some of y'all call a pin hook. During the sale, my grandpa usually sat with those 2 owners, so I would too. And before the sale, I hung out with Mr. Smith. He brought his grandson that was my age, and we hunbg out all morning. I learned a lot watching and listening to those owners and my grandpa...about this and that cattle in the ring. And I learned a LOT more from Mr. Smith...about buying, selling and trading cattle. His goal was to clear $20 a head, so he gave people pretty close to what they had hoped to get most of the time, so people would actually approach him and ask him iof he wanted to buy their cattle. $20 dont sound like much, but if you buy 50-100 in a day, $1k to $2k was a lot of money to make on a Saturday in the 70's. Trading cattle really got my attention, I already loved horse trading more than anything else to do with them. The only sustained cow-calf operation I ever fooled with was raising Corrs for roping in the 70's and 80's, and Corr - Ang crosses in the 90's when the teampenning craze swept the country. I was contracting to furnishing cattle for these events. You want them polled, and the same color. You have 30 head in the competition, and if you had 27 blacks, a hereford color, a Char and a bwf in there, then you could memorize their number, and get to them quicker and get them out if that number was called. So, that's how I first got involved with Corr x Angus. I have bought beef cows from time to time, and would have calves born before I sold them, etc., but I have never tried to keep a beef herd for year on year, and develop a program like a lot on here do, other than my granddaddy's for a few years before he died. These days, apparently, I am in the business of paying double for nurse cows, and calves to put on them! I told Scott we might have to get another 100 Corr cows and raise another calf crop, to make enough money to fund Zeke's calf business! Right now, I do have those 22 Plummers, and those last 7 Corr cows I bought the last month or so. I am buying 10 of those Black Simm x Chi-Angus heifers, and 10 of the Chi-Angus x Black Simm heifers when they wean in July, but Clay is going to take them to his place, and pay me back as he sells their calves. If I am around in 2026! [/QUOTE]
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