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<blockquote data-quote="Brute 23" data-source="post: 1786640" data-attributes="member: 6291"><p>I've bought cows in a pinch but prefer to retain heifers. My costs don't add up to any where near what is shown here. The idea that because you are a commercial producer you should not retain is nonsense. Land you have to work with, costs, and general experience with cattle play a bigger role, Imo.</p><p></p><p>This has been debated in debth many times before but I put a price on the heifer at weaning (6-8 mo) based off what the others sold for that didn't get kept.</p><p></p><p>Then I have the period from weaning to being bred. (8-10 mo)</p><p></p><p>For us, once that heifer is put in with a bull she is out of the heifer category. She is now an operating cow. Her expenses will be charged against her calf like all the other producing cows. Our heifers don't get special treatment though either.</p><p></p><p>In the example where one would not breed, which is extremely rare for us on retained animals, I would take her cost at the time, subtract what ever she brings for salvage, and divide it amongst the group. Same would be for a complete loss or any thing that gets culled. On the culled heifers though, that can go either way because it is not uncommon for me to PT heifers I don't want and make money on them. Even going to the AB with big heifers I'm generally right at break even or a tad more.</p><p></p><p>The key for us to retain the heifers at a reasonable price is having heifer properties. I'll take a small lease in the right area just for that purpose. The heifers develope better, naturally and it's far cheaper. Also, our cost to winter heifers is extremely low between their nutritional needs and our weather.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Brute 23, post: 1786640, member: 6291"] I've bought cows in a pinch but prefer to retain heifers. My costs don't add up to any where near what is shown here. The idea that because you are a commercial producer you should not retain is nonsense. Land you have to work with, costs, and general experience with cattle play a bigger role, Imo. This has been debated in debth many times before but I put a price on the heifer at weaning (6-8 mo) based off what the others sold for that didn't get kept. Then I have the period from weaning to being bred. (8-10 mo) For us, once that heifer is put in with a bull she is out of the heifer category. She is now an operating cow. Her expenses will be charged against her calf like all the other producing cows. Our heifers don't get special treatment though either. In the example where one would not breed, which is extremely rare for us on retained animals, I would take her cost at the time, subtract what ever she brings for salvage, and divide it amongst the group. Same would be for a complete loss or any thing that gets culled. On the culled heifers though, that can go either way because it is not uncommon for me to PT heifers I don't want and make money on them. Even going to the AB with big heifers I'm generally right at break even or a tad more. The key for us to retain the heifers at a reasonable price is having heifer properties. I'll take a small lease in the right area just for that purpose. The heifers develope better, naturally and it's far cheaper. Also, our cost to winter heifers is extremely low between their nutritional needs and our weather. [/QUOTE]
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