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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1786586" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>The very last line on the spreadsheet,in yellow, says " cost to 1st calf is $2882". At the bottom of the post is this.</p><p><strong>Cost to take a heifer from weaned to Bred, between $2000 and $2100</strong></p><p><strong>Cost to take her to weaning her first calf, between $2800 and $3000</strong></p><p>I just realized, Jeanne, that these are YOUR costs. not part of the report, and I apologize. So take any of those 2 figures in bold, or the $2882 from the report . The 1st bold is cost from weaned to bred, 2nd in bold is cost from weaning her to weaning her 1st calf. The %2882 is the cost from weaning to 1st calf is born. So my question was, for <em>commercial cattle, </em>could you not take the cost at either of the three stages $2100 or $2882 or $3000, and buy a replacement and have a calf in 9 months( if she was open) instead of the 24 months before the one you raise has a calf at 2 years old. and yes, I think the value of the heifer at weaning should be figured in. You decide not spend the $2882 raising her, so you have $2882 to go heifer shopping. But if you sold her for $1000, then you would have <strong>$3882</strong> to go replacement shopping with. </p><p></p><p>EVryone;s situation is different. There are some situations where...and again talking about commercial...you could raise one to 1st calf cheaper than you could buy one, but most of the time you can buy one as cheap or cheaper, and get that 1st calf a lot sooner. Hell, in the situation I am in with the corr x Brangus operation, raising a heifer makes sense. We buy Corr cows for $250, to breed to mostly Brangus bulls. We use a Corr clean up bull , and out of our 100 cows you usually average 2-3 missed and having a Corr calf a month later. One year we had 10, the last year none, but about 2 or so average a year. If one of them is a heifer we will usually keep it. We have ZERO inputs, other than a couple hundred lbs of salt and minerals a year. So yeah, like the 4 that just calved at 23 months old, we have nothing money wise or labor wise in them. Might could have sold them at weaning for $150 and put $100 with it and bought another cow, and been money ahead and a year earlier making it. Those four 2021s that just calved? If I had sold them and bought four, I would have had four $750 calves born a few days ago. Now it will be Sept before they have them, and March of 2024 before I sell the first black calf off them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1786586, member: 40587"] The very last line on the spreadsheet,in yellow, says " cost to 1st calf is $2882". At the bottom of the post is this. [B]Cost to take a heifer from weaned to Bred, between $2000 and $2100 Cost to take her to weaning her first calf, between $2800 and $3000[/B] I just realized, Jeanne, that these are YOUR costs. not part of the report, and I apologize. So take any of those 2 figures in bold, or the $2882 from the report . The 1st bold is cost from weaned to bred, 2nd in bold is cost from weaning her to weaning her 1st calf. The %2882 is the cost from weaning to 1st calf is born. So my question was, for [I]commercial cattle, [/I]could you not take the cost at either of the three stages $2100 or $2882 or $3000, and buy a replacement and have a calf in 9 months( if she was open) instead of the 24 months before the one you raise has a calf at 2 years old. and yes, I think the value of the heifer at weaning should be figured in. You decide not spend the $2882 raising her, so you have $2882 to go heifer shopping. But if you sold her for $1000, then you would have [B]$3882[/B] to go replacement shopping with. EVryone;s situation is different. There are some situations where...and again talking about commercial...you could raise one to 1st calf cheaper than you could buy one, but most of the time you can buy one as cheap or cheaper, and get that 1st calf a lot sooner. Hell, in the situation I am in with the corr x Brangus operation, raising a heifer makes sense. We buy Corr cows for $250, to breed to mostly Brangus bulls. We use a Corr clean up bull , and out of our 100 cows you usually average 2-3 missed and having a Corr calf a month later. One year we had 10, the last year none, but about 2 or so average a year. If one of them is a heifer we will usually keep it. We have ZERO inputs, other than a couple hundred lbs of salt and minerals a year. So yeah, like the 4 that just calved at 23 months old, we have nothing money wise or labor wise in them. Might could have sold them at weaning for $150 and put $100 with it and bought another cow, and been money ahead and a year earlier making it. Those four 2021s that just calved? If I had sold them and bought four, I would have had four $750 calves born a few days ago. Now it will be Sept before they have them, and March of 2024 before I sell the first black calf off them. [/QUOTE]
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