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<blockquote data-quote="1982vett" data-source="post: 1746857" data-attributes="member: 7795"><p>How big are the mesquite?</p><p></p><p>What type of clover? In my opinion, clover is your friend. </p><p></p><p>Grazon doesn't kill everything, glyphosate kills everything (at an appropriate rate). I wouldn't use either. Sure, Grazon has a residual that works against the reseeding of your weeds, but it also hinders the reseeding of your desirable plants and plantings. I use a generic 2, 4-D. Sometimes I'll use a mixture of Patriot and Remedy where use of 2, 4-D is restricted. I seem to get relatively good control of young mesquite this way. </p><p></p><p>This year I am going to try Sendero on my problem mesquite. Those that I've sprayed several years now without successfully killing them. </p><p></p><p>I've been running about a cow(pair) to 7 acres since 2012/13. I once used 18 tons of fertilizer a year running a cow to 3 acres plus cut enough hay to feed my own and sell enough hay to offset some of the fertilizer cost. At the time fertilizer was ~$250 a ton, not the $1000+ it is now. I haven't put out a total of 18 tons over the last 7 or 8 years. Even with the erratic rainfall I have more forage than I need. I do not sell hay any more but do cut excess pasture for the hay I use and keep the barns mostly full. </p><p></p><p>My recommendation…no more than 4 cows/pair for a couple years. Then you can add another or two as the pastures recover. Rotate grazing and weed/mesquite control. If you can't help yourself, a little fertilizer if you must. Leave the Agribusinessman's playbook on the shelf. Their are still plenty of lemmings following it to keep him fat and happy. </p><p></p><p>Shredding, some will say it's a wast of grass…but it does return unused forage (and weeds) to the soil. Also helps ryegrass and winter grasses get established. </p><p></p><p>It takes time to do it this way. Your not going to make a fortune with 4 cows, but your not spending one trying to run 7 either.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="1982vett, post: 1746857, member: 7795"] How big are the mesquite? What type of clover? In my opinion, clover is your friend. Grazon doesn’t kill everything, glyphosate kills everything (at an appropriate rate). I wouldn’t use either. Sure, Grazon has a residual that works against the reseeding of your weeds, but it also hinders the reseeding of your desirable plants and plantings. I use a generic 2, 4-D. Sometimes I’ll use a mixture of Patriot and Remedy where use of 2, 4-D is restricted. I seem to get relatively good control of young mesquite this way. This year I am going to try Sendero on my problem mesquite. Those that I’ve sprayed several years now without successfully killing them. I’ve been running about a cow(pair) to 7 acres since 2012/13. I once used 18 tons of fertilizer a year running a cow to 3 acres plus cut enough hay to feed my own and sell enough hay to offset some of the fertilizer cost. At the time fertilizer was ~$250 a ton, not the $1000+ it is now. I haven’t put out a total of 18 tons over the last 7 or 8 years. Even with the erratic rainfall I have more forage than I need. I do not sell hay any more but do cut excess pasture for the hay I use and keep the barns mostly full. My recommendation…no more than 4 cows/pair for a couple years. Then you can add another or two as the pastures recover. Rotate grazing and weed/mesquite control. If you can’t help yourself, a little fertilizer if you must. Leave the Agribusinessman’s playbook on the shelf. Their are still plenty of lemmings following it to keep him fat and happy. Shredding, some will say it’s a wast of grass…but it does return unused forage (and weeds) to the soil. Also helps ryegrass and winter grasses get established. It takes time to do it this way. Your not going to make a fortune with 4 cows, but your not spending one trying to run 7 either. [/QUOTE]
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