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<blockquote data-quote="TexasBred" data-source="post: 1451757" data-attributes="member: 6897"><p>Joe very true only a "lawful" order has to obeyed by a soldier. (Now we must define lawful) </p><p></p><p>The "United States" appear to more a group of states more closely united as a "union" and a "United States" whereas a confederacy of states is much more loosely organized with gov't of the entire confederacy only taking care of certain legal matters such as "declaring war" ;-) or other things. </p><p></p><p></p><p> Here is a cut and paste of an unusual historical document, and the only instance of which we have heard of an oath of allegiance signed by one of high officer's rank in the Confederate army. The printed form is headed at top "Form of Oath." In it, Lee swears that:</p><p></p><p><strong><u> "I Edwin G. Lee aged 26 years 7 months, born in Virginia, appointed from Jefferson Co., Virginia, do solemnly swear or affirm that while I continue in the service of the I will bear true faith, and yield obedience to the CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA, and that I will serve them honestly and faithfully against their enemies, and that I will observe and obey the orders of the President of the Confederate States, and the orders of the Officers appointed over me, according to the Rules and Articles of War."</u></strong></p><p><strong><u></u></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>The meaning of oaths and the forgotten man. A long but excellent read about another West Point General from Virginia. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a24208/what-an-oath-means/" target="_blank">http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/ne ... ath-means/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TexasBred, post: 1451757, member: 6897"] Joe very true only a "lawful" order has to obeyed by a soldier. (Now we must define lawful) The "United States" appear to more a group of states more closely united as a "union" and a "United States" whereas a confederacy of states is much more loosely organized with gov't of the entire confederacy only taking care of certain legal matters such as "declaring war" ;-) or other things. Here is a cut and paste of an unusual historical document, and the only instance of which we have heard of an oath of allegiance signed by one of high officer's rank in the Confederate army. The printed form is headed at top "Form of Oath." In it, Lee swears that: [b][u] "I Edwin G. Lee aged 26 years 7 months, born in Virginia, appointed from Jefferson Co., Virginia, do solemnly swear or affirm that while I continue in the service of the I will bear true faith, and yield obedience to the CONFEDERATE STATES OF AMERICA, and that I will serve them honestly and faithfully against their enemies, and that I will observe and obey the orders of the President of the Confederate States, and the orders of the Officers appointed over me, according to the Rules and Articles of War." [/u][/b] The meaning of oaths and the forgotten man. A long but excellent read about another West Point General from Virginia. [url=http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a24208/what-an-oath-means/]http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/ne ... ath-means/[/url] [/QUOTE]
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