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<blockquote data-quote="Chuckie" data-source="post: 1844380" data-attributes="member: 637"><p>You can breed back in your farm, but don't over concentrate it. Mostly if you are seeing a defect showing up in the same lineage, then STOP. Weaknesses show up when it is a strong weakness gene, and when you see it in a few calves, change it quick. It has taken over the hips and rear leg joints in many farms, and people keep breeding these animals. Many have the look, but the bulls are in pain when they walk. </p><p></p><p>Often I see weaknesses in certain farms and I think they can't see it. Or they hope you don't see it.... Like weak structure in legs and hips. Or weakness in backs and thickness of the animal. If you have trouble deciding what you are looking at. Find a great bull that you know is correct, and compare that animal to what is different in your own. Is your calf half the thickness of one of the same age? Is his heart girth as deep and his flank as deep? Does his muscling on his rump tie down close to his hock or does it end higher up?</p><p></p><p>Calves are young, but when they are weanlings, they will look the same but just much bigger. If there is a fault or a weakness, it will still be there when he is a 2 year old. </p><p></p><p>Comparing will teach you to see the difference. You are not just trying to raise a show animal, but correct cattle are stronger and heavier. And it raises your profits at the sale barn and selling replacement heifers to other people.</p><p></p><p> It raises the quality of your own herd, and all that calves that follow afterwards. You are doing yourself the biggest favor when you retain the very best. That cow or bull will hopefully reproduce themselves, and always get a bull that is better than any cow you have. And they don't always cost you super prices. Many bulls I have seen at sales were great, but the farms did not push them as a top bull because their breeding was not as well known. My best bull cost me $3,000 in 2003 or 2004, and he was a super producer. You never know how strong the genetics will pass through different bulls. Ever notice that the bulls costing so much and are the high selling bulls at the farms often fall often out of sight? The farm will push the first year they use him, but don't offer him after that. But the good ones, they keep pushing for years afterwards. They had the look, and the breeding, but just can't produce themselves. There are some that were so nice that have almost disappeared.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chuckie, post: 1844380, member: 637"] You can breed back in your farm, but don't over concentrate it. Mostly if you are seeing a defect showing up in the same lineage, then STOP. Weaknesses show up when it is a strong weakness gene, and when you see it in a few calves, change it quick. It has taken over the hips and rear leg joints in many farms, and people keep breeding these animals. Many have the look, but the bulls are in pain when they walk. Often I see weaknesses in certain farms and I think they can't see it. Or they hope you don't see it.... Like weak structure in legs and hips. Or weakness in backs and thickness of the animal. If you have trouble deciding what you are looking at. Find a great bull that you know is correct, and compare that animal to what is different in your own. Is your calf half the thickness of one of the same age? Is his heart girth as deep and his flank as deep? Does his muscling on his rump tie down close to his hock or does it end higher up? Calves are young, but when they are weanlings, they will look the same but just much bigger. If there is a fault or a weakness, it will still be there when he is a 2 year old. Comparing will teach you to see the difference. You are not just trying to raise a show animal, but correct cattle are stronger and heavier. And it raises your profits at the sale barn and selling replacement heifers to other people. It raises the quality of your own herd, and all that calves that follow afterwards. You are doing yourself the biggest favor when you retain the very best. That cow or bull will hopefully reproduce themselves, and always get a bull that is better than any cow you have. And they don't always cost you super prices. Many bulls I have seen at sales were great, but the farms did not push them as a top bull because their breeding was not as well known. My best bull cost me $3,000 in 2003 or 2004, and he was a super producer. You never know how strong the genetics will pass through different bulls. Ever notice that the bulls costing so much and are the high selling bulls at the farms often fall often out of sight? The farm will push the first year they use him, but don't offer him after that. But the good ones, they keep pushing for years afterwards. They had the look, and the breeding, but just can't produce themselves. There are some that were so nice that have almost disappeared. [/QUOTE]
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