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<blockquote data-quote="Boot Jack Bulls" data-source="post: 1610221" data-attributes="member: 24016"><p>They were all solid peachy/blonde colored, using red Limi bulls. Pretty much the same results when we crossed them back to red Limis for "f2" cross. These were good, rugged commercial range cows brought in by the pot load from MT/WY/CO. We also had success with the one purebred show Char female we had that we crossed back onto the Limi bulls. Very typey calves, solid peaches and smokes (black Limi in that case). We did show steers out of these crosses, but only at a county fair level. I would say only 1 or 2 would have what it would have taken to compete at state fair here. </p><p></p><p>Given your goals, I would be tempted to pick out a handful of females to breed to a clubby or more show type bull and breed the rest to a more maternal or growth oriented bull. The goals you stated are too antogonistic to satisfy completely with one type of mating. A bull like Primo (angus) will give you show ring appeal and growth, and should make smokes on your chars and blue roans on your Shorthorns. He is proven to produce competitive cattle. He probably won't make scale crushing feeders for anything not going to a show ring, but I don't think they will be horrible on performance. I can't think of a Limi bull available on a national level at this time that will do everything you want either, as much as it pains me to say. I don't find many in the glossy mags that have the performance and phenotype I demand in one package. I have some in my pasture and some old ones in my tank, but I may be prejudiced in my opinion on those ones lol!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Boot Jack Bulls, post: 1610221, member: 24016"] They were all solid peachy/blonde colored, using red Limi bulls. Pretty much the same results when we crossed them back to red Limis for "f2" cross. These were good, rugged commercial range cows brought in by the pot load from MT/WY/CO. We also had success with the one purebred show Char female we had that we crossed back onto the Limi bulls. Very typey calves, solid peaches and smokes (black Limi in that case). We did show steers out of these crosses, but only at a county fair level. I would say only 1 or 2 would have what it would have taken to compete at state fair here. Given your goals, I would be tempted to pick out a handful of females to breed to a clubby or more show type bull and breed the rest to a more maternal or growth oriented bull. The goals you stated are too antogonistic to satisfy completely with one type of mating. A bull like Primo (angus) will give you show ring appeal and growth, and should make smokes on your chars and blue roans on your Shorthorns. He is proven to produce competitive cattle. He probably won't make scale crushing feeders for anything not going to a show ring, but I don't think they will be horrible on performance. I can't think of a Limi bull available on a national level at this time that will do everything you want either, as much as it pains me to say. I don't find many in the glossy mags that have the performance and phenotype I demand in one package. I have some in my pasture and some old ones in my tank, but I may be prejudiced in my opinion on those ones lol! [/QUOTE]
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