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Anybody found a "best way" or tool/machine design to remove frozen Net Wrap from Round bales?
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<blockquote data-quote="RDFF" data-source="post: 1782022" data-attributes="member: 39018"><p>Yes, it does help some to "roll them" on the ground with the unroller... that generally will help break the ice from a freezing rain to some degree, and it will shed pretty much all of the snow that's on top of the bale, but it won't break/kink the "soggy bottom boys" enough to let it come off in smaller pieces on those that have a big broad chunk of frozen mud. I've been doing that on the first bale (like I said, I'm not sure that anything but a flame thrower or a milling machine of some sort will appropriately terminate those muddy bottoms. Tanerite would probably do it! </p><p></p><p>To save time and steps getting in and out of the cab, I take two at a time out to the cattle, one on the unroller on the front, and one on a 3 pt. 2 prong spear carrier on the back. When I get there, I roll that front bale with the net still on it on the ground if it's got some snow on top or frozen rain ice on the wrap etc., lift it up off the ground a bit, then get out and cut the net on BOTH bales and remove it (so that back bale won't have been rolled on the ground...)........ saves me having to get out again another time to remove the net on the second bale. Works well <u>if it's not frozen</u>.... I can just cut the net on the front bale on the back side, lift one end up over the top, and pull... the bale just rolls then as I pull the net off the bottom and it pretty much comes off clean without any hay or anything.... UNLESS THAT BOTTOM IS A BIG THICK CHUNK OF FROZEN MUD! (That's why I set my bales on those "railroad track posts"... keeps the bales up off the ground... MUCH cleaner and seldom have any frozen mud or anything on the bottom..., and helps it to keep its round shape better, makes for easy bale picking and much easier net removal). On the back one, because the 3 pt. spear lift is holding it all well up off the ground, I cut it on the side and then pull it off around <u>the bottom</u> first (because this bale won't roll when I pull on the netwrap), then let the 3 pt. down onto the ground (no netwrap underneath the bale now), and pull it off over the top (have to let it down because you can't reach over the top of the bale when it's up in the air). 3 pt. holds it up high enough that I can crawl under easily to pull it off the bottom... (i.e.: I can crawl around under the bale easily... doesn't make it any easier to pull the net out of a frozen muddy bottom<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite4" alt=":mad:" title="Mad :mad:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":mad:" />).</p><p></p><p>Then when the first bale runs out, I just drop the back one off on the ground on the go, swing around and reload the unroller, and start unrolling again. Pretty efficient, non-mechanical system. Biggest time consumer (if you don't have badly frozen net wrap) is the dead-heading to/from the storage area for more hay. Last year I was thinking of trying to carry up to 3 bales on the back with duals on the tractor... but I've decided that won't be a good solution, because of difficulty with snow drifts, and having to load the 3 pt. carrier three wide... duals, and loading 3 wide, would put your tractor right into the thick of the snow banks that normally are formed on each side of the bale row. If you keep it as a single wide bale with single wheels, you back into the row centered right where the bales were set (straddling the "railroad tracks"), with your rear tires then just catching the snow bank a little. For the most part, on a N-S row out in the open at least, there's usually about a 6" space on each side of the bale row... just enough to allow you to remove the bales without having to get rid of the snow. And <u>most</u> of the snow blows off of their tops. Different story if you set them in an E-W row though.... the snow banks then are usually right up against the bales. </p><p></p><p>I'm feeding 240 bales a month this way right now. If I didn't have to deal with muddy frozen bottoms, more wouldn't be an issue at all. All are fed rolled out all across my summer pastures. I can put the soil amendments anywhere I want to, and as heavily or lightly as I want to. No dead "bale ring" spots anywhere, only positives for the pasture the next year. No manure to haul. No lots to clean. No TMR to have to maintain, and spend time "grinding", etc. Nothing but time on my tractor, which is getting a pretty light load on it, to wear out. Nothing to have to have room for in the shed but my tractor either. Only one self-contained, self-propelled rig to have to keep plugged in so it will start.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDFF, post: 1782022, member: 39018"] Yes, it does help some to "roll them" on the ground with the unroller... that generally will help break the ice from a freezing rain to some degree, and it will shed pretty much all of the snow that's on top of the bale, but it won't break/kink the "soggy bottom boys" enough to let it come off in smaller pieces on those that have a big broad chunk of frozen mud. I've been doing that on the first bale (like I said, I'm not sure that anything but a flame thrower or a milling machine of some sort will appropriately terminate those muddy bottoms. Tanerite would probably do it! To save time and steps getting in and out of the cab, I take two at a time out to the cattle, one on the unroller on the front, and one on a 3 pt. 2 prong spear carrier on the back. When I get there, I roll that front bale with the net still on it on the ground if it's got some snow on top or frozen rain ice on the wrap etc., lift it up off the ground a bit, then get out and cut the net on BOTH bales and remove it (so that back bale won't have been rolled on the ground...)........ saves me having to get out again another time to remove the net on the second bale. Works well [U]if it's not frozen[/U].... I can just cut the net on the front bale on the back side, lift one end up over the top, and pull... the bale just rolls then as I pull the net off the bottom and it pretty much comes off clean without any hay or anything.... UNLESS THAT BOTTOM IS A BIG THICK CHUNK OF FROZEN MUD! (That's why I set my bales on those "railroad track posts"... keeps the bales up off the ground... MUCH cleaner and seldom have any frozen mud or anything on the bottom..., and helps it to keep its round shape better, makes for easy bale picking and much easier net removal). On the back one, because the 3 pt. spear lift is holding it all well up off the ground, I cut it on the side and then pull it off around [U]the bottom[/U] first (because this bale won't roll when I pull on the netwrap), then let the 3 pt. down onto the ground (no netwrap underneath the bale now), and pull it off over the top (have to let it down because you can't reach over the top of the bale when it's up in the air). 3 pt. holds it up high enough that I can crawl under easily to pull it off the bottom... (i.e.: I can crawl around under the bale easily... doesn't make it any easier to pull the net out of a frozen muddy bottom:mad:). Then when the first bale runs out, I just drop the back one off on the ground on the go, swing around and reload the unroller, and start unrolling again. Pretty efficient, non-mechanical system. Biggest time consumer (if you don't have badly frozen net wrap) is the dead-heading to/from the storage area for more hay. Last year I was thinking of trying to carry up to 3 bales on the back with duals on the tractor... but I've decided that won't be a good solution, because of difficulty with snow drifts, and having to load the 3 pt. carrier three wide... duals, and loading 3 wide, would put your tractor right into the thick of the snow banks that normally are formed on each side of the bale row. If you keep it as a single wide bale with single wheels, you back into the row centered right where the bales were set (straddling the "railroad tracks"), with your rear tires then just catching the snow bank a little. For the most part, on a N-S row out in the open at least, there's usually about a 6" space on each side of the bale row... just enough to allow you to remove the bales without having to get rid of the snow. And [U]most[/U] of the snow blows off of their tops. Different story if you set them in an E-W row though.... the snow banks then are usually right up against the bales. I'm feeding 240 bales a month this way right now. If I didn't have to deal with muddy frozen bottoms, more wouldn't be an issue at all. All are fed rolled out all across my summer pastures. I can put the soil amendments anywhere I want to, and as heavily or lightly as I want to. No dead "bale ring" spots anywhere, only positives for the pasture the next year. No manure to haul. No lots to clean. No TMR to have to maintain, and spend time "grinding", etc. Nothing but time on my tractor, which is getting a pretty light load on it, to wear out. Nothing to have to have room for in the shed but my tractor either. Only one self-contained, self-propelled rig to have to keep plugged in so it will start. [/QUOTE]
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