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<blockquote data-quote="Warren Allison" data-source="post: 1842518" data-attributes="member: 40587"><p>I probably should have posted this in the <em>What have you done lately that made you question your intelligence? </em>thread. I reckon I have come full circle. I sold the Plummer cows ,and have bought 108 Corrientes I had sold over the past 2 years or so ( and 2 LHs). </p><p></p><p>The man that had been buying every black Corr ( and Corr x MFB) cow I'd get in as well as other solid colored ones, called me and wanted to sell out. He has decided to get into the Waygu business. Gonna do their program where they market, add guaranteed money to the calf prices, etc. He offered them to me for 70 cents on the dollar that he paid us for them. $700-$750 for the blacks, $650 for the solid colored tans and reds, and $600 for a handful of spotted ones. About 70+ blacks, about 20 solid other coloreds, and about a dozen spotted ones. He has had them with just one sale-barn "angus" bull, and their calving period will be first of March til end of June. Kinda suited me, because I always said if we got another herd I didn't want them all calving in February anymore. It does no good to have a uniform calf crop and carry 50 steers and 50 heifers to these local sales anyway. But, I used that in my negotiations. Plus, he has no idea if the bull is homo for black., or even pure Angus, so I told him there is a good chance he won't get all black calves out of these cows. I ended up getting them for $420 per head....109 total. He had 2 LHs too, and I told him I didn't want them, but he said he would just bring them over with the others, and I could just have them. I <em><strong>was</strong> </em>going to AI them to the white, polled Brahma bull we have been using, and get 2 more Plummer heifers out of them. </p><p></p><p>Meantime, I also got a call from the boy who is raising smaller bucking bulls for junior rodeo. Or might be high school rodeo.. I don't remember. He wanted to buy the Plummer cows. He is getting some sexed semen from a couple of NFR-qualifying bucking bulls...ABBI registered...enough to AI 5 of those cows. The other 17 he wants to breed to a black MFB he has bought for cowboy poker. Wants to get smaller framed but very athletic bucking bulls from them. I told him they had all just calved, and I would wean them end of July- 1st of August, and he could buy them for what he offered...$3k per head. He said he was wanting to breed in March. I told him I would sell him the pairs for $4500. Told him Clay's boss had already agreed to buy them at 5 and a half to 6 mos old, for $2.20lb for the steers and $2 for the heifers. The ones we sold him when we bought him...same bull as the sire of these new calves... went over 600lb for the heifers and 700 for the steers. So, he could sell them to him at weaning, and he'd have less than $3k per head in them. But, I told him if they were weaned right now, he could get $3 or more per pound for them at today's prices, easy, and end up with even less per head in the cows., if prices held this year,. But,.he didn't have that kind of money. He said <em>" Let me buy them now for $3k, and bring that bull over and put with them now.</em>" But, I told him I didn't want that bull in with the Corr cows I just bought. So, here is the deal I worked out ( and this is why I said I should have posted this in the <strong>What have you done lately that made you question your intelligence?</strong> thread ) :</p><p></p><p> We rounded up and moved the Plummers and their calves over to the dove field. It is a little over 50 acres, and is fenced off from the 400 acre row crop land we are letting the vet and her husband run calves on. There are bales of millet and peanut hay on the edges that we used as blinds during the shoot, plus the whole thing got over-seeded with wheat ,rye, barley and oats last fall. I had 3 of those 12 Corrs I bought in Alabama with calves, so I moved them over there too. I wouldn't mind getting some 1/2 MFB heifers out of them. Pedro ( not his name,..we just call him that) brought a corral over and set it up, so he can check them for heat, and have a place for the vet to AI them. Once she has 5 checked pregnant, he will bring that bull over and turn him in with them. We aren't having the dove shoot over there any more, and we had already decided to just let it grow up for another quail/rabbit spot, so he can leave them all their til August. He paid me a non-refundable deposit of $6800 (10%), and will pay the balance when the calves are weaned , and has til the end of August to move them. I charged him $3100/head instead of $3k. and threw in both of those LHs and the sexed Brahma semen to breed them. ( have no idea if they are bred now, or when they are due if they are)...$500 for both of them. and the straws. </p><p></p><p>So, all is well down at the Kudzu place. Lisa and Joe have Whitey and her calves. We now have 121 Corr cows, and no other kind! Just Gail and her calves, and we can handle that easy enough. We gonna be having 121 Corr x Angus calves this year...hopefully mostly black.. and 118 next year by the black Simm and the Brangus x Chi-angus bulls we are getting from Scott's brother. Both of them were born Dec 2022. 3 of the Corrs will have MFB calves. No feeding or vetting or vaccinating or worming anymore. With the calves staggered like they will be, we will just round up and cut the bull calves once a month, then 6 mos later round up the calves again and haul to the sale. 121 black calves a year instead of 22. I bought those Plummer pairs for $27.5k, and sold their calves for a little over $28k, so had nothing in them. Sold them for $68k. Bought those 109 Corrs for $46k. And we will have no inputs with them...like we used to do it. That $22k I made will get me back my money I paid for those 5 dairy cows and the high-priced bottle calves I bought, as well as the 12 Corrs I bought over in Alabama last month! AND....drum roll please... the greatest thing of all! Pedro saw Zeke leading some of his nieces and nephews around on ZUS.. 2 or 3 at a time. He had a fit wanting to buy him for a novelty act...teach him to ride under saddle, etc. Scott asked Zeke if he would be willing to let Pedro have ZUS to star in rodeos, and Zeke kinda agreed, but you could tell he was kinda upset. Then Scott showed him the twenty $100 bills, and told him that I would come get him and take him to Guitar Center in Macon, and he could buy the electric guitar and amp he has been wanting. So that is what I am doing tomorrow! Miss Mattie said she was gonna take a hickory to Scott, and to me if I brought Zeke back with an electric guitar and amp! LOL</p><p></p><p> Life is good again!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Warren Allison, post: 1842518, member: 40587"] I probably should have posted this in the [I]What have you done lately that made you question your intelligence? [/I]thread. I reckon I have come full circle. I sold the Plummer cows ,and have bought 108 Corrientes I had sold over the past 2 years or so ( and 2 LHs). The man that had been buying every black Corr ( and Corr x MFB) cow I'd get in as well as other solid colored ones, called me and wanted to sell out. He has decided to get into the Waygu business. Gonna do their program where they market, add guaranteed money to the calf prices, etc. He offered them to me for 70 cents on the dollar that he paid us for them. $700-$750 for the blacks, $650 for the solid colored tans and reds, and $600 for a handful of spotted ones. About 70+ blacks, about 20 solid other coloreds, and about a dozen spotted ones. He has had them with just one sale-barn "angus" bull, and their calving period will be first of March til end of June. Kinda suited me, because I always said if we got another herd I didn't want them all calving in February anymore. It does no good to have a uniform calf crop and carry 50 steers and 50 heifers to these local sales anyway. But, I used that in my negotiations. Plus, he has no idea if the bull is homo for black., or even pure Angus, so I told him there is a good chance he won't get all black calves out of these cows. I ended up getting them for $420 per head....109 total. He had 2 LHs too, and I told him I didn't want them, but he said he would just bring them over with the others, and I could just have them. I [I][B]was[/B] [/I]going to AI them to the white, polled Brahma bull we have been using, and get 2 more Plummer heifers out of them. Meantime, I also got a call from the boy who is raising smaller bucking bulls for junior rodeo. Or might be high school rodeo.. I don't remember. He wanted to buy the Plummer cows. He is getting some sexed semen from a couple of NFR-qualifying bucking bulls...ABBI registered...enough to AI 5 of those cows. The other 17 he wants to breed to a black MFB he has bought for cowboy poker. Wants to get smaller framed but very athletic bucking bulls from them. I told him they had all just calved, and I would wean them end of July- 1st of August, and he could buy them for what he offered...$3k per head. He said he was wanting to breed in March. I told him I would sell him the pairs for $4500. Told him Clay's boss had already agreed to buy them at 5 and a half to 6 mos old, for $2.20lb for the steers and $2 for the heifers. The ones we sold him when we bought him...same bull as the sire of these new calves... went over 600lb for the heifers and 700 for the steers. So, he could sell them to him at weaning, and he'd have less than $3k per head in them. But, I told him if they were weaned right now, he could get $3 or more per pound for them at today's prices, easy, and end up with even less per head in the cows., if prices held this year,. But,.he didn't have that kind of money. He said [I]" Let me buy them now for $3k, and bring that bull over and put with them now.[/I]" But, I told him I didn't want that bull in with the Corr cows I just bought. So, here is the deal I worked out ( and this is why I said I should have posted this in the [B]What have you done lately that made you question your intelligence?[/B] thread ) : We rounded up and moved the Plummers and their calves over to the dove field. It is a little over 50 acres, and is fenced off from the 400 acre row crop land we are letting the vet and her husband run calves on. There are bales of millet and peanut hay on the edges that we used as blinds during the shoot, plus the whole thing got over-seeded with wheat ,rye, barley and oats last fall. I had 3 of those 12 Corrs I bought in Alabama with calves, so I moved them over there too. I wouldn't mind getting some 1/2 MFB heifers out of them. Pedro ( not his name,..we just call him that) brought a corral over and set it up, so he can check them for heat, and have a place for the vet to AI them. Once she has 5 checked pregnant, he will bring that bull over and turn him in with them. We aren't having the dove shoot over there any more, and we had already decided to just let it grow up for another quail/rabbit spot, so he can leave them all their til August. He paid me a non-refundable deposit of $6800 (10%), and will pay the balance when the calves are weaned , and has til the end of August to move them. I charged him $3100/head instead of $3k. and threw in both of those LHs and the sexed Brahma semen to breed them. ( have no idea if they are bred now, or when they are due if they are)...$500 for both of them. and the straws. So, all is well down at the Kudzu place. Lisa and Joe have Whitey and her calves. We now have 121 Corr cows, and no other kind! Just Gail and her calves, and we can handle that easy enough. We gonna be having 121 Corr x Angus calves this year...hopefully mostly black.. and 118 next year by the black Simm and the Brangus x Chi-angus bulls we are getting from Scott's brother. Both of them were born Dec 2022. 3 of the Corrs will have MFB calves. No feeding or vetting or vaccinating or worming anymore. With the calves staggered like they will be, we will just round up and cut the bull calves once a month, then 6 mos later round up the calves again and haul to the sale. 121 black calves a year instead of 22. I bought those Plummer pairs for $27.5k, and sold their calves for a little over $28k, so had nothing in them. Sold them for $68k. Bought those 109 Corrs for $46k. And we will have no inputs with them...like we used to do it. That $22k I made will get me back my money I paid for those 5 dairy cows and the high-priced bottle calves I bought, as well as the 12 Corrs I bought over in Alabama last month! AND....drum roll please... the greatest thing of all! Pedro saw Zeke leading some of his nieces and nephews around on ZUS.. 2 or 3 at a time. He had a fit wanting to buy him for a novelty act...teach him to ride under saddle, etc. Scott asked Zeke if he would be willing to let Pedro have ZUS to star in rodeos, and Zeke kinda agreed, but you could tell he was kinda upset. Then Scott showed him the twenty $100 bills, and told him that I would come get him and take him to Guitar Center in Macon, and he could buy the electric guitar and amp he has been wanting. So that is what I am doing tomorrow! Miss Mattie said she was gonna take a hickory to Scott, and to me if I brought Zeke back with an electric guitar and amp! LOL Life is good again! [/QUOTE]
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