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<blockquote data-quote="Double R Ranch" data-source="post: 1847474" data-attributes="member: 411"><p>Yes she was one of the bred cows. I suspect no actual vaccines etc. even thought the breeder made claims. Also had health issues that prevented general herd care for several years it turned out so how much was really done is a mystery. Just from the experience when I picked them up. She did have heifer calving "problems" when she delivered trying to claim other older calves as her own instead of pushing hers out. She later did allow our jersey calf to nurse. We caught that in a few days but certainly she was being nursed down. He was eating from what we could tell well and regularly. He was having movements so clearly was getting milk. I've never seen a calf go from running the night before to down and near death by mid day the following day. Especially in a beef animal. I more expect that in a dairy calf. It just puts more salt to the wound at this point. Trying not to blame the cattle/breeder but it's just one more thing in this whole deal that leaves a bad taste. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it's a herd issue after all the stories the breeder told me when I was picking them up. </p><p></p><p>I am sure the sudden swings in weather didn't help the issue for us either. I sure am sorry to hear about your problems this season. Hopefully you're over the hump and all the rest will be better. I hear you on the stop while we are ahead. We discussed that last night. It's just another blow to an already bad experience with these cows. The cattle themselves have blossomed here. No "stranger danger" at all when people come to see them. </p><p>That's great you got the the stunted one all turned around. It's always nice when that happens. We wish it didn't happen but a good outcome is always nice. We will most likely give this mom another year. She has been a pretty good mom for a heifer. Just frustrated with all the problems with these "docile, easy calving, easily maintained" cattle so far. Some or most I can't really blame on them as it's breeder issues but some I question if it's a breed thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Double R Ranch, post: 1847474, member: 411"] Yes she was one of the bred cows. I suspect no actual vaccines etc. even thought the breeder made claims. Also had health issues that prevented general herd care for several years it turned out so how much was really done is a mystery. Just from the experience when I picked them up. She did have heifer calving "problems" when she delivered trying to claim other older calves as her own instead of pushing hers out. She later did allow our jersey calf to nurse. We caught that in a few days but certainly she was being nursed down. He was eating from what we could tell well and regularly. He was having movements so clearly was getting milk. I've never seen a calf go from running the night before to down and near death by mid day the following day. Especially in a beef animal. I more expect that in a dairy calf. It just puts more salt to the wound at this point. Trying not to blame the cattle/breeder but it's just one more thing in this whole deal that leaves a bad taste. It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it's a herd issue after all the stories the breeder told me when I was picking them up. I am sure the sudden swings in weather didn't help the issue for us either. I sure am sorry to hear about your problems this season. Hopefully you're over the hump and all the rest will be better. I hear you on the stop while we are ahead. We discussed that last night. It's just another blow to an already bad experience with these cows. The cattle themselves have blossomed here. No "stranger danger" at all when people come to see them. That's great you got the the stunted one all turned around. It's always nice when that happens. We wish it didn't happen but a good outcome is always nice. We will most likely give this mom another year. She has been a pretty good mom for a heifer. Just frustrated with all the problems with these "docile, easy calving, easily maintained" cattle so far. Some or most I can't really blame on them as it's breeder issues but some I question if it's a breed thing. [/QUOTE]
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