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Chevy, what does your pencil say about buying bred cows versus bred heifers?

After following hay feeding threads here for several years, I don’t think I would be off base to say, from the standpoint of cow nutrition and economy, unrolling the amount of hay that cows will clean up in a day is clearly the best option available. Time and labor considerations and regularity...

billyB, thank you for your comments. This has been discussed many times on this board, and your explanation is the clearest and best I’ve seen. The African horn gene figures in, as mentioned, but only in cattle with Brahman blood.

A 5 strand barbed wire fence will never match the holding capacity of a one wire electric fence, for cattle trained to electric fence, at 1/10 the cost.

With as small a group as you have, the logistics of keeping replacements heifers separate as a group, forgetting hay feeding, dictate selling all heifers and buying in replacement bred cows to fit your preferred calving season. Herds with large numbers of heifers who are run in a separate...

RDFF, Bud would be proud of your explanation!

Not following you,Coach. These are Angus sired calves. Guaranteed to be black. This calf from the OP was not believed to be sired by an Angus bull.

Some of the experts here may correct me, but there is a “black, red carrier” not a”red, black carrier”.

Guard rail is hard to beat if you find it as seconds and plan well for using it.

Some interesting points in this thread. Let’s address the facts. There are two kinds of herds. Maternal and terminal. In a maternal herd, we breed for heifers that are better than their mothers. Better reproduction, calving ease, appropriate milk and longevity. The steers are acceptable in the...

Rdff, I started to challenge you in your earlier post when you spoke about a pup from “top international breeder”. Glad I didn’t. If you have a dog bred by Jack Knox, you have the best you can find in America, bred by the greatest stock dog man in America. That’s all this forum needs to know.

No comparison between Border Collies and any other herding breed. If not a Border Collie, you’re wasting your time.

Don't think that I know much. But I can grow grass much better than I can produce hay. Kenny, if your cows weigh 1200, that’s 42,000 lb. live weight. 10 calves at 300 is 3000, so 45,000 lb. live weight total. At 2 and 1/2% of live weight consumption, that’s 1125 lb. DM/herd/day. Times 70 days...

Thanks, Kenny. That is most helpful. We follow your protocol, but don’t do near as good a job as you do!

Kenny, we have seen how good your stockpile is. If you are grazing it for 70 days, how many cows on how many acres of stockpile. How often do you move the polywire? Do you remember what the University said for lbs. DM/A when they measured it for you?

Lucky P, can you share the differences?

The point was not that tagging is not necessary, though for some that would be true. The point is, for most producers, a tag could be placed the first time the calf comes through the chute and then matched with its mother’s number over the next several months that it stays on the ranch. There...

Again, I ask what is accomplished?

Brute, thanks for explaining it better than I did. Lot easier than tagging at birth, and you get the same results. Some would argue you can get the same results without tags. When you see a subpar calf in the pasture, write down the mother’s number and cull her if you want to.