Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

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Re: Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

Post by greggy » Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:31 am

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There is a reason that "feed" is free and you found it I'm afraid. I would think most companies would put junk like that in a dumpster and let the garbage man pick it up but I'm sure they think they're helping someone out by giving them feed. Why not collect some of this junk put it in a bag or box and take it o them and show it to them.
It is the young blokes working there, they clean the floors etc, and to save 2 steps, put it in the feed bins instead of the dumpster...ultimate in laziness and lack of care...and perhaps malice.

The rubber bands and plastic though is usually holding things together or contains produce.

I am not complaining, and is actually competitive to get, so not looking the horse in the mouth :D



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Re: Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:59 am

If it is free - keep sorting out the "non-edibles". If the cattle eat small pieces of plastic or rubber, it can build up in them until they don't have the room for "real' food.
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Re: Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

Post by TexasBred » Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:45 am

greggy wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:31 am
TexasBred wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:30 pm
There is a reason that "feed" is free and you found it I'm afraid. I would think most companies would put junk like that in a dumpster and let the garbage man pick it up but I'm sure they think they're helping someone out by giving them feed. Why not collect some of this junk put it in a bag or box and take it o them and show it to them.
It is the young blokes working there, they clean the floors etc, and to save 2 steps, put it in the feed bins instead of the dumpster...ultimate in laziness and lack of care...and perhaps malice.

The rubber bands and plastic though is usually holding things together or contains produce.

I am not complaining, and is actually competitive to get, so not looking the horse in the mouth :D
Very well and they are your cattle but I wouldn't feed it at any price nor would I purchase any feed from that mill. Makes you wonder what else is going on that no one knows about.
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Re: Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

Post by greggy » Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:50 pm

Jeanne - Simme Valley wrote:
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If it is free - keep sorting out the "non-edibles". If the cattle eat small pieces of plastic or rubber, it can build up in them until they don't have the room for "real' food.
Yes, will be doing that, even if it all passed, I do not want plastics everywhere.

So you feel that rubber bands may also not all pass ?

I wont be feeding anything on purpose that is not useful feed or roughage either way.

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Re: Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

Post by greggy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:00 am

TexasBred wrote:
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:45 am
greggy wrote:
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:31 am
TexasBred wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 6:30 pm
There is a reason that "feed" is free and you found it I'm afraid. I would think most companies would put junk like that in a dumpster and let the garbage man pick it up but I'm sure they think they're helping someone out by giving them feed. Why not collect some of this junk put it in a bag or box and take it o them and show it to them.
It is the young blokes working there, they clean the floors etc, and to save 2 steps, put it in the feed bins instead of the dumpster...ultimate in laziness and lack of care...and perhaps malice.

The rubber bands and plastic though is usually holding things together or contains produce.

I am not complaining, and is actually competitive to get, so not looking the horse in the mouth :D
Very well and they are your cattle but I wouldn't feed it at any price nor would I purchase any feed from that mill. Makes you wonder what else is going on that no one knows about.

Most people, would not do what I entertain.

But, this is fresh produce, the biggest problem, is it is designed for humans, and humans now want everything wrapped and packaged, and then you have the junk thrown in by the young blokes, it just means, I have to sort it all, it soaks up time, but, apart from that, the animals thrive on it all, along with other waste I get, if I could get free straw, I would be down to zero cost feed, and, after mixing or doling out in parts, is very high protien and energy along with all the vit and mineral reqd.

Let me put it this way, before using this and other waste, mainly using hay, I had a number of my good ewes die, I put it down to a lack of vit and minerals, since changing to this mixed feed, I have not lost one, all are fat, as are most heifers now, not overly fat, but have moved to a nice score. No cattle were lost just on hay, but, how many may have been close or working toward that ? (that is what I was asking myself).

In the past, I have also fed good lucerne ad lib when I could get it, and they are doing much better on the waste.

The point of the post, was too see what is acceptable to some, and too see if maybe I should not be overly concerned with rubber bands, I remove them, and look real hard for any metals or plastics, the later is prob because I do not like plastic blowing around and metal, well, we know what nails and screws can do, but have read where people in the US fed lollies with wrappers ad lib, and apart from the litter on the property, I wondered if it would all pass.

As a secondary note, I have seen plenty of landholders, who fuss over great grade hay in winter and great pasture, but they have bits of metal from fencing everywhere, bits of twine and poly rope from bales, basically, lots of things they do not realise that cattle especially will chow down ! Sheep wont.

So, you can be over the top with what you feed, or spend mega bucks or nothing, but there are dangers everywhere, with many, it seems the outlook on the lifespan equals what they care about, where, I treat every animal as if it will live a full life, even though, they prob wont for obvious reasons.

I am learning, want to learn as much as I can, so I ask a lot of questions and do things that are unusual to many I suppose.

This forum, and my practical exposure, is giving me knowledge that I think a lot of cattle and sheep people do not seem to have, or, at least display....

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Re: Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

Post by Jeanne - Simme Valley » Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:57 am

I don't have any experience with this kind of feed but - Farms that feed bulk candy with wrappers are generally feeding steers (feedlot cattle). Paper wrappers on the candy break down in their system, so not much of a problem.
I would be careful with rubber bands. Like others said, if it comes out, that's fine - but - if it doesn't, it can cause harm if built up causing blockage.
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Re: Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

Post by TexasBred » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:38 pm

Greggy you asked for "opinion" and that's what you got. Hope all goes well for you and if you ahve any additional questions by all means throw them out there.
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Re: Contraband in feed....what is ok with you and why ?

Post by greggy » Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:03 pm

Yes, appreciate everyones feedback.

Sometimes forums are hard to express all aspects, but all discussion can help.

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