blackcowz
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Does anyone have some pictures or info such as EPD's and frame score on the Hereford bull WTK Continental? Thanks for any help. :cowboy:
Same bull?CPL":3by4owcf said:It took a little searching but this is what I could come up with:
http://www.buyagro.com/crittenden2/conn.htm
dun":2fhk9su5 said:Same bull?CPL":2fhk9su5 said:It took a little searching but this is what I could come up with:
http://www.buyagro.com/crittenden2/conn.htm
http://www.herfnet.com/online/cgi-bin/i ... 5&9=5E505E
CPL":98qhd8qj said:dun":98qhd8qj said:Same bull?CPL":98qhd8qj said:It took a little searching but this is what I could come up with:
http://www.buyagro.com/crittenden2/conn.htm
http://www.herfnet.com/online/cgi-bin/i ... 5&9=5E505E
As far as I know, but those would be his CHA EPDs on their website.
Not too bad! Looks like a fine bull. He was recommended as a stout maternal bull. Do ya'll agree on that or not? Thanks for the help.CPL":1zws5wiy said:Also for what its worth here are some more pictures, one of him and one of his dam.
blackcowz":2xul9l78 said:Not too bad! Looks like a fine bull. He was recommended as a stout maternal bull. Do ya'll agree on that or not? Thanks for the help.CPL":2xul9l78 said:Also for what its worth here are some more pictures, one of him and one of his dam.
Dun, thanks for keeping it short and sweet. But I actually believe I have found a good little Herf bull that'll fit my criteria. I'll try and get a pic and EPD's posted soon.dun":femc6w1i said:blackcowz":femc6w1i said:Not too bad! Looks like a fine bull. He was recommended as a stout maternal bull. Do ya'll agree on that or not? Thanks for the help.CPL":femc6w1i said:Also for what its worth here are some more pictures, one of him and one of his dam.
Based strictly on EPDs, that isn;t a maternal bull. Skykigh BW, low milk, below average daughters calving ease, way too high a yearling weight. If his calves would come fairly easy he would be a terminal bull and that's it
dun":3obx0cy6 said:blackcowz":3obx0cy6 said:Not too bad! Looks like a fine bull. He was recommended as a stout maternal bull. Do ya'll agree on that or not? Thanks for the help.CPL":3obx0cy6 said:Also for what its worth here are some more pictures, one of him and one of his dam.
Based strictly on EPDs, that isn;t a maternal bull. Skykigh BW, low milk, below average daughters calving ease, way too high a yearling weight. If his calves would come fairly easy he would be a terminal bull and that's it
Aaron":k3v2bxhf said:Looking at his numbers, I think he is a real cow maker. You think that is bad BW, you should look back at Louada Trendsetter and Bar B Yankee...they were cow killers. I have no problem with 6.1 on cows. The maximum BW EPD for Herf's is 14....Trendsetter was 13 something last time I looked. Yankee was over 10.
dun":nmecyph4 said:Aaron":nmecyph4 said:Looking at his numbers, I think he is a real cow maker. You think that is bad BW, you should look back at Louada Trendsetter and Bar B Yankee...they were cow killers. I have no problem with 6.1 on cows. The maximum BW EPD for Herf's is 14....Trendsetter was 13 something last time I looked. Yankee was over 10.
You must look at different things in a cow then I do.
CE bottom 50%, BW top 10%, WW top 5%, YW top 5%, Milk lower 20%, FEM bottom 30%
Those are just to opposite of what I'm looking for in a cow
So how does this bull fit into that scenerio?Aaron":2vzumlh1 said:dun":2vzumlh1 said:Aaron":2vzumlh1 said:Looking at his numbers, I think he is a real cow maker. You think that is bad BW, you should look back at Louada Trendsetter and Bar B Yankee...they were cow killers. I have no problem with 6.1 on cows. The maximum BW EPD for Herf's is 14....Trendsetter was 13 something last time I looked. Yankee was over 10.
You must look at different things in a cow then I do.
CE bottom 50%, BW top 10%, WW top 5%, YW top 5%, Milk lower 20%, CEM bottom 30%
Those are just to opposite of what I'm looking for in a cow
Most definitely. I need CE top 50% and BW top 50%. Need heifers that can handle up to 110 lbs calf and calve it out without help, and 130 lbs for cows. Small calves around here are weak and don't have the energy to get up and suck because they wasted it all in shivering after being born on a cold April morning. :cowboy:
dun":ab6cvk8f said:Small calves around here are weak and don't have the energy to get up and suck because they wasted it all in shivering after being born on a cold April morning.
Need heifers that can handle up to 110 lbs calf and calve it out without help, and 130 lbs for cows.
redfornow":2tqfm4qh said:This is a classic case of we are talking about different enviroments!!!
Heck this discussion has ranged from canada to s.africa to tx to Mo and now KY.....
So this is less about BW than about needs for an area.
I have used a bond son, heavy on the BW but nothing a mature cow couldnt handle, I wouldnt use him on heifers by any means. Great udders, good frame, moderate cows that milk well with solid attachment.
As far as improving a sloppy udder, either goat teats, sectioned, attachment, whatever the best bull I have used is 606 and bond son was a close second.