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Fed lots of green oak leaves. The chainsaw would start and the cows would come running.
snoopdog":2cq58mis said:Droughts come and they go , you have to have a plan . That is management , our drought has broken , just before the trigger date . Looks like we're gonna have pasture , and enough hay IF the winter isn't too severe . We may not be out of the woods , we cut some sorry hay for filler and were glad to get it . But ,selling down , is also management , we have sold completely out and concentrated on forage production before , and actually had a bigger margin. You have to follow your heart , but you can't let it rule your mind.
BK I figure they'll burn more calories trying to digest it than they'll get out of it.BK9954":15ytpdnn said:I can't find any info on oak, that's why I am asking. If it's just roughage then the only benifit would be energy?TexasBred":15ytpdnn said:What nutrients??BK9954":15ytpdnn said:I read about people feeding sawdust, but it doesn't say how to break it down, also had a guy in the 50's that fed shredded news paper during the drought. Anyone done this and if so how to do it so the cattle can break it down and get the nutrients?
20% cubes are running about $8.75 a bag around here and you're getting them for $5.00?? Wow. Buying bulk might be a little bit cheaper but not a whole lot.Lucky":49w48zts said:I wonder how much straight commodity mix or the 14% cubes it would take a day for a bred cow to survive the winter? Both are fairly cheap if you can buy them in bulk. Do feedlots feed hay? You could feed a cow 20#'s a day of bulk feed for about $2 a day. Could she survive on this alone if she could find even a little pickin through the day? Need to recruit a beef cattle nutritionist to the board.
Our 20% cubes have gone up to $8.10 a bag and corn has gone up to $6 a bag.TexasBred":1mrsc0dn said:20% cubes are running about $8.75 a bag around here and you're getting them for $5.00?? Wow. Buying bulk might be a little bit cheaper but not a whole lot.Lucky":1mrsc0dn said:I wonder how much straight commodity mix or the 14% cubes it would take a day for a bred cow to survive the winter? Both are fairly cheap if you can buy them in bulk. Do feedlots feed hay? You could feed a cow 20#'s a day of bulk feed for about $2 a day. Could she survive on this alone if she could find even a little pickin through the day? Need to recruit a beef cattle nutritionist to the board.
Fehner and Sons in Gonzales Texas they have people to drive all the way up from the valley to buy their feed hereTexasBred":1qpwx884 said:20% cubes are running about $8.75 a bag around here and you're getting them for $5.00?? Wow. Buying bulk might be a little bit cheaper but not a whole lot.Lucky":1qpwx884 said:I wonder how much straight commodity mix or the 14% cubes it would take a day for a bred cow to survive the winter? Both are fairly cheap if you can buy them in bulk. Do feedlots feed hay? You could feed a cow 20#'s a day of bulk feed for about $2 a day. Could she survive on this alone if she could find even a little pickin through the day? Need to recruit a beef cattle nutritionist to the board.
TexasBred":3sboznsv said:20% cubes are running about $8.75 a bag around here and you're getting them for $5.00?? Wow. Buying bulk might be a little bit cheaper but not a whole lot.Lucky":3sboznsv said:I wonder how much straight commodity mix or the 14% cubes it would take a day for a bred cow to survive the winter? Both are fairly cheap if you can buy them in bulk. Do feedlots feed hay? You could feed a cow 20#'s a day of bulk feed for about $2 a day. Could she survive on this alone if she could find even a little pickin through the day? Need to recruit a beef cattle nutritionist to the board.
TexasBred":1fes92uw said:20% cubes are running about $8.75 a bag around here and you're getting them for $5.00?? Wow. Buying bulk might be a little bit cheaper but not a whole lot.Lucky":1fes92uw said:I wonder how much straight commodity mix or the 14% cubes it would take a day for a bred cow to survive the winter? Both are fairly cheap if you can buy them in bulk. Do feedlots feed hay? You could feed a cow 20#'s a day of bulk feed for about $2 a day. Could she survive on this alone if she could find even a little pickin through the day? Need to recruit a beef cattle nutritionist to the board.
Caustic Burno":3e9el5jg said:TexasBred":3e9el5jg said:20% cubes are running about $8.75 a bag around here and you're getting them for $5.00?? Wow. Buying bulk might be a little bit cheaper but not a whole lot.Lucky":3e9el5jg said:I wonder how much straight commodity mix or the 14% cubes it would take a day for a bred cow to survive the winter? Both are fairly cheap if you can buy them in bulk. Do feedlots feed hay? You could feed a cow 20#'s a day of bulk feed for about $2 a day. Could she survive on this alone if she could find even a little pickin through the day? Need to recruit a beef cattle nutritionist to the board.
TB could probably answer the pounds a day to satisfy nutrition needs.
You still need x number of pounds equaling 30 pounds to fill that cow up.
If you're going to feed that many cubes I'd drop down to a 12% or 14%, whatever I could find. Knew a man who sold thousands of rolls of hay because it got high then fed his own cows 20% cubes all winter. Said his calves looked awesome becuase the cows were giving more milk but his cows looked hike crap. The did survive though.Lucky":31snj80f said:Caustic Burno":31snj80f said:TexasBred":31snj80f said:20% cubes are running about $8.75 a bag around here and you're getting them for $5.00?? Wow. Buying bulk might be a little bit cheaper but not a whole lot.
TB could probably answer the pounds a day to satisfy nutrition needs.
You still need x number of pounds equaling 30 pounds to fill that cow up.
That's what I was getting at 20 pounds of feed and let them find something to eat even if you had to find old hay and limit it or even feed cornstalks. There's got to be more options than feeding just hay. I guess a feed mixer would work but who has time for that. My main concern would be bloat or getting them too loose.
TexasBred":1zyayd3u said:If you're going to feed that many cubes I'd drop down to a 12% or 14%, whatever I could find. Knew a man who sold thousands of rolls of hay because it got high then fed his own cows 20% cubes all winter. Said his calves looked awesome becuase the cows were giving more milk but his cows looked hike crap. The did survive though.Lucky":1zyayd3u said:Caustic Burno":1zyayd3u said:TB could probably answer the pounds a day to satisfy nutrition needs.
You still need x number of pounds equaling 30 pounds to fill that cow up.
That's what I was getting at 20 pounds of feed and let them find something to eat even if you had to find old hay and limit it or even feed cornstalks. There's got to be more options than feeding just hay. I guess a feed mixer would work but who has time for that. My main concern would be bloat or getting them too loose.