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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 16103"><p>Everybody gets MLV in the spring, cows, calves heifers, and GOMER. Plus worming and repro checks on heifers. It averages about 6.50 a head, obviously it is a little less then the avg. for GOMER, a little higher for heifers. Fall Is killed for bred cows and heifers, MLV for everyone else, plus worming and grubs. Preg check all the bred stuff, just to make sure. Calves all get MLV and are weaned that day. About 4 weeks later, that's what the drug company recommends for the stuff we use, he comes back out and gives the calves ther booster. No charge except the price of the vaccine. By that time we have them used to walking down the alleyway and out the chute to get their grain so we just close off the chute, run a bunch in, vaccinate them in the chute. Run them out and the next bunch in. The whole fall workup runs about 12 bucks a head for the calves, about 6.50 for the cows and heifers. Gomer only gets wormed cause he's going in the finish pen.</p><p></p><p>We have used a couple of different pre-vac programs. We use any of the standard programs that Jopin has the pre-vac sales for. That way anything we don;t send through our marketing group we can send through Joplin. All of the programs I'm aware of require a booster at anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks after the initial shot. Heifers we are retaining for replacemnts don't normally get the booster. They're with the same bunch of animals they've been with their entire life, nothing new is/will be aded until after the spring workup anyway. We've never had a problem with this way of doing things. We don;t do pinkeye or hoofrot, never had it don;t see any reason to start vaccinating for stuff that isn't required. Some friends of ours had never had pink eye but they got convinced that they needed to vaccinate for it anyway. Every year since they've started they've had a lot of problem with pinkeye. HMMMMMMMM But they don't have any form of fly control so for them maybe it's a good deal.</p><p></p><p>dun</p><p></p><p>> Just to add to your comment - It</p><p>> is also nice to have heifers</p><p>> vaccinated for bangs, which only a</p><p>> licensed vet can do.</p><p></p><p>> Question: Do you have the vet out</p><p>> for the boosters that are often</p><p>> required 2 or 3-weeks after the</p><p>> first shot? Or, have you found a</p><p>> vaccination program that doesn't</p><p>> need the boosters? We live in</p><p>> SW-Mo near Mt. Vernon so any</p><p>> vaccination program you are using</p><p>> might apply to our herd and I</p><p>> would very much appreciate it if</p><p>> you have advice on how to lower</p><p>> costs and avoid these 3-week</p><p>> boosters.</p><p></p><p>> We just went thru the 1st round of</p><p>> spring vaccinations. To get</p><p>> 6-month old calves ready for</p><p>> weaning, we gave them</p><p>> Triangle-4+BVD2 to cover</p><p>> respiratory stuff. This needs a</p><p>> booster in 3-weeks. We gave them</p><p>> Alpha-7 for Blackleg+Pinkeye. The</p><p>> Alpha-7 recommends a booster in</p><p>> 3-weeks of Ocu-guard to get</p><p>> pinkeye protect closer to 100% so</p><p>> we plan to do that too. The</p><p>> moma-cows just get the once-a-year</p><p>> booster of Respromune-9</p><p>> (respiratory + Lepto), Piliguard</p><p>> Pinkeye-1, and Volar (for</p><p>> foot-root protection – expensive,</p><p>> but has worked for us). But for</p><p>> heifers that we plan to keep, we</p><p>> will catch them again in 3-weeks</p><p>> and give the recommend boosters</p><p>> for Respromune-9 and Volar. As you</p><p>> can tell, this is all killed-virus</p><p>> vaccines. I've been told that $$</p><p>> and time can be saved by switching</p><p>> to live-virus and working cows</p><p>> when they are open. Is this what</p><p>> you do?</p><p></p><p>> I would like to throw out a</p><p>> warning for anyone using the vet</p><p>> for vaccinations: Always check</p><p>> Vet's current pricing before</p><p>> calling them out! For three years</p><p>> I was having the vet out for</p><p>> spring vaccinations. The first two</p><p>> years, the charge for ~25</p><p>> cow/calves was around $300 for</p><p>> shots, preg-check, and worming. I</p><p>> thought this was reasonable. The</p><p>> 3rd year the same vet handed me a</p><p>> bill for $525! We had done all the</p><p>> same stuff and had worked fewer</p><p>> cows that year! Pricing had</p><p>> changed and I neglected to ask</p><p>> first. Totally my fault. To get</p><p>> costs down a little, I started</p><p>> doing vaccinations myself and this</p><p>> is when I learned that 3-week</p><p>> boosters were sometimes</p><p>> recommended. Vet had never</p><p>> mentioned this.</p><p></p><p>> Thanks, Jerry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 16103"] Everybody gets MLV in the spring, cows, calves heifers, and GOMER. Plus worming and repro checks on heifers. It averages about 6.50 a head, obviously it is a little less then the avg. for GOMER, a little higher for heifers. Fall Is killed for bred cows and heifers, MLV for everyone else, plus worming and grubs. Preg check all the bred stuff, just to make sure. Calves all get MLV and are weaned that day. About 4 weeks later, that's what the drug company recommends for the stuff we use, he comes back out and gives the calves ther booster. No charge except the price of the vaccine. By that time we have them used to walking down the alleyway and out the chute to get their grain so we just close off the chute, run a bunch in, vaccinate them in the chute. Run them out and the next bunch in. The whole fall workup runs about 12 bucks a head for the calves, about 6.50 for the cows and heifers. Gomer only gets wormed cause he's going in the finish pen. We have used a couple of different pre-vac programs. We use any of the standard programs that Jopin has the pre-vac sales for. That way anything we don;t send through our marketing group we can send through Joplin. All of the programs I'm aware of require a booster at anywhere from 2 to 4 weeks after the initial shot. Heifers we are retaining for replacemnts don't normally get the booster. They're with the same bunch of animals they've been with their entire life, nothing new is/will be aded until after the spring workup anyway. We've never had a problem with this way of doing things. We don;t do pinkeye or hoofrot, never had it don;t see any reason to start vaccinating for stuff that isn't required. Some friends of ours had never had pink eye but they got convinced that they needed to vaccinate for it anyway. Every year since they've started they've had a lot of problem with pinkeye. HMMMMMMMM But they don't have any form of fly control so for them maybe it's a good deal. dun > Just to add to your comment - It > is also nice to have heifers > vaccinated for bangs, which only a > licensed vet can do. > Question: Do you have the vet out > for the boosters that are often > required 2 or 3-weeks after the > first shot? Or, have you found a > vaccination program that doesn’t > need the boosters? We live in > SW-Mo near Mt. Vernon so any > vaccination program you are using > might apply to our herd and I > would very much appreciate it if > you have advice on how to lower > costs and avoid these 3-week > boosters. > We just went thru the 1st round of > spring vaccinations. To get > 6-month old calves ready for > weaning, we gave them > Triangle-4+BVD2 to cover > respiratory stuff. This needs a > booster in 3-weeks. We gave them > Alpha-7 for Blackleg+Pinkeye. The > Alpha-7 recommends a booster in > 3-weeks of Ocu-guard to get > pinkeye protect closer to 100% so > we plan to do that too. The > moma-cows just get the once-a-year > booster of Respromune-9 > (respiratory + Lepto), Piliguard > Pinkeye-1, and Volar (for > foot-root protection – expensive, > but has worked for us). But for > heifers that we plan to keep, we > will catch them again in 3-weeks > and give the recommend boosters > for Respromune-9 and Volar. As you > can tell, this is all killed-virus > vaccines. I've been told that $$ > and time can be saved by switching > to live-virus and working cows > when they are open. Is this what > you do? > I would like to throw out a > warning for anyone using the vet > for vaccinations: Always check > Vet’s current pricing before > calling them out! For three years > I was having the vet out for > spring vaccinations. The first two > years, the charge for ~25 > cow/calves was around $300 for > shots, preg-check, and worming. I > thought this was reasonable. The > 3rd year the same vet handed me a > bill for $525! We had done all the > same stuff and had worked fewer > cows that year! Pricing had > changed and I neglected to ask > first. Totally my fault. To get > costs down a little, I started > doing vaccinations myself and this > is when I learned that 3-week > boosters were sometimes > recommended. Vet had never > mentioned this. > Thanks, Jerry [/QUOTE]
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