DMCA Agent
GROUP BUILDER / AVE. PEREZ, AZUERO BC / PO BOX 0601-0395 / PANAMA, REP. OF PANAMA.
011 (+507) 202-7799
[email protected]
Who are they?
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GROUP BUILDER / AVE. PEREZ, AZUERO BC / PO BOX 0601-0395 / PANAMA, REP. OF PANAMA.
011 (+507) 202-7799
[email protected]
greybeard
Well-known member
Probably so the USPS can make more $$$$$$$$$$$ kinda like a letter sent across town has to go out of town first, to a bigger branch post Office to get routed....
1st class mail here goes to a recipient out of state faster than the same mail sent just across the county, but 'they' claim USPS is very efficient..
simme
Old Dumb Guy
Just as stated, that's the DMCA agent contact, not the owner. Owner is from Texas
Who is the owner?
greybeard
Well-known member
"What is a DMCA registered agent?
DMCA registered agents are registered with the U.S. Copyright Office. The registration is done electronically and involves providing the name of a person, company, or law firm to whom copyright-related correspondence and complaints will be sent. Registration must be renewed every three years."
DMCA registered agents are registered with the U.S. Copyright Office. The registration is done electronically and involves providing the name of a person, company, or law firm to whom copyright-related correspondence and complaints will be sent. Registration must be renewed every three years."
It doesn't appear for me on anyone's user name I click.
If anyone is a member of other forums, you will notice they are all similar in appearance and layout. There probably a half dozen vendors for forums. If you want to start a forum, you go to one of their sites, and buy a forum template, and you can fill it in and create your topics, etc. These vendors all have a server that they host the forums on. This one is hosted on a server in Panama. It is these servers that do the data mining from their forums, and sell the info. If you click on the "term's at the bottom of the page, They disclose who all they sell their mined data to. And it clearly states that anything you post on this forums, is the property of the DMCA, not the forum owner. Not saying that all of your personal data this server collects is used for sinister purposes...just saying the potential is there.
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Under your user settings, privacy, you can click if anyone can start a converstaion with you "privately." If you have it set to no one, you can't recieve DM's.
simme
Old Dumb Guy
Just a little internet work needed. Warren posted the owner name along with the address of the DMCA agent. Per the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) law, online service providers and websites are required to provide the DMCA agent contact information.
When the forum changed owner's there was a little explanation by Angie (who later became Marie) about the new owners. They own lots of forums.
greybeard
Well-known member
This board uses ZenForo, as indicated at the bottom of each page. Ya don't 'buy a template' Ya pay a fee to get a license to USE the template.
Moses388, your photos etc do not become property of Cattle Today. They are still yours but by posting them, you agree to grant CT the right to use them. There's a difference..
You are basically (by posting the work) declaring them to be open source, because CT (actually zenforo) does NOT claim exclusive right to use your work and in fact, claims NON-Exclusive worldwide right to ....etc etc.
6. Content Posted by members
6.1. By posting content on the Websites you warrant that you are the creator and owner of the posted content, or that you have obtained the prior written consent to post said content from a third party owner. When posting content originating from any third party, you agree to conspicuously post the name of said third party adjacent to said posted content.
6.2. By posting content on the Websites, you also grant, and warrant that you have the authority to grant, the Company a perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive worldwide right and license to display, reproduce, adapt, modify, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, play, make available to the public, use, and exercise all copyright and publicity rights with respect to any and all content that you post on the Websites. If you do not wish to grant CattleToday.com - Cattle, Cow & Ranching Community these rights, do not submit content to the Website.
Moses388, your photos etc do not become property of Cattle Today. They are still yours but by posting them, you agree to grant CT the right to use them. There's a difference..
You are basically (by posting the work) declaring them to be open source, because CT (actually zenforo) does NOT claim exclusive right to use your work and in fact, claims NON-Exclusive worldwide right to ....etc etc.
6. Content Posted by members
6.1. By posting content on the Websites you warrant that you are the creator and owner of the posted content, or that you have obtained the prior written consent to post said content from a third party owner. When posting content originating from any third party, you agree to conspicuously post the name of said third party adjacent to said posted content.
6.2. By posting content on the Websites, you also grant, and warrant that you have the authority to grant, the Company a perpetual, royalty-free, non-exclusive worldwide right and license to display, reproduce, adapt, modify, publish, translate, create derivative works from, distribute, perform, play, make available to the public, use, and exercise all copyright and publicity rights with respect to any and all content that you post on the Websites. If you do not wish to grant CattleToday.com - Cattle, Cow & Ranching Community these rights, do not submit content to the Website.
greybeard
Well-known member
Angie/Marie's introduction:
www.cattletoday.com
Hi everyone
Hello to all of you. I know some of you have been seeing me around the forum today after the change over. Here's what's happening. The forum was sold by M. Gravlee to a a couple of guys that are a small company that has a few forums. I help get the software set up for the members...
www.cattletoday.com
I do not see where the owner is from Texas. It says that the person(s) that own the forum... have a business... out of San Marcos, TX... called Group Builder.
Sadly, Angie/ Marie is no longer here.
simme
Old Dumb Guy
Yeah. "From" Texas, "out of Texas" and all that are minor details for me. But enough evidence for me to doubt the statement that "This forum is hosted on a server in Panama (China) and owned by someone in Panama." But could be that a Chinese guy formed a company in Texas, bought a bunch of forums, and moved to Panama with his server. Who knows? Maybe warren is chinese. Maybe he lives in panama. I don't know.
No doubt, but you never really know who owns what.
I have seen companies do it where they have a company all based out of like Austin. Have a local guy as the ceo or what ever, Texas stuff all over the website, etc. Ultimately it's owned by some one out of Spain or some other foreign country.
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Travlr
Well-known member
Somebody named Hillary... and she lived in Arkansas for awhile. (humor, for those that missed it)
greybeard
Well-known member
Scroll to the bottom:
www.groupbuilder.com
I can tell you right now, that the address is a United States post Office at 900 Bugg Ln Suite 110a Office 911 San Marcos Tx, which is a relatively new facility located in the back of a strip mall. How do I know? Because, Google Earth says so, as well as a search for Post offices in San Marcos Texas. y guess iis, that the address is just a post office box....Box #911.
Group Builder is an investment/internet group that buys up discussion boards/forums, and monetizes them thru advertising. They own 100s if not thousands tho they recently got rid of some under performers in specific sectors.
It doesn't take a big corporate footprint to do such things nowadays...or very many employees at all.
Who they are/what they do
This is not an unusual arrangement. There is $$$$$$ to be made in these discussion boards and in some cases a LOT of money. After all, the hard work was already done, by the person that started the forum (in this case Mr. Gravely) and of course, by the thousands of creators of all the content that makes up the discussion board..you and I.
There are on-line companies that keep track of such endeavors. One of them is Crunchbase.
What does Crunchbase do?
The great gawd Google sez:
"AI Overview
Crunchbase is a website that provides information about businesses, including companies, people, and investments. It's used by entrepreneurs, investors, and other professionals to learn about companies, markets, and opportunities"
That pretty much says it. Crunchbase (and other companies like it) is just a data gathering company, full of fun facts and information about all kinds of companies. (But, you have to be careful with Ai. Ai also claims Cattle Today is owned by NCBA.)
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Ai is simply not to be trusted 100%...EVER!
But, here's one of the graphics that Crunchbase includes for the company that may (or may not) own Cattle Today... Group Builders. (what this indicates is that at the time this graphic was posted on Crunchbase), Group Builder fell within the parameter of those 3 lists of Texas businesses.(evidently Group Build (or the boards it bought up) generates a good bit of revenue)
Want an eye opener? Type or copy/paste the following into Google or Bing and sit back and read awhile.....
"forums owned by group builder"
Group Builder - Community Management Consulting
I can tell you right now, that the address is a United States post Office at 900 Bugg Ln Suite 110a Office 911 San Marcos Tx, which is a relatively new facility located in the back of a strip mall. How do I know? Because, Google Earth says so, as well as a search for Post offices in San Marcos Texas. y guess iis, that the address is just a post office box....Box #911.
Group Builder is an investment/internet group that buys up discussion boards/forums, and monetizes them thru advertising. They own 100s if not thousands tho they recently got rid of some under performers in specific sectors.
It doesn't take a big corporate footprint to do such things nowadays...or very many employees at all.
Who they are/what they do
This is not an unusual arrangement. There is $$$$$$ to be made in these discussion boards and in some cases a LOT of money. After all, the hard work was already done, by the person that started the forum (in this case Mr. Gravely) and of course, by the thousands of creators of all the content that makes up the discussion board..you and I.
There are on-line companies that keep track of such endeavors. One of them is Crunchbase.
What does Crunchbase do?
The great gawd Google sez:
"AI Overview
Crunchbase is a website that provides information about businesses, including companies, people, and investments. It's used by entrepreneurs, investors, and other professionals to learn about companies, markets, and opportunities"
That pretty much says it. Crunchbase (and other companies like it) is just a data gathering company, full of fun facts and information about all kinds of companies. (But, you have to be careful with Ai. Ai also claims Cattle Today is owned by NCBA.)
...................................................................................
.....................................................................................
Ai is simply not to be trusted 100%...EVER!
But, here's one of the graphics that Crunchbase includes for the company that may (or may not) own Cattle Today... Group Builders. (what this indicates is that at the time this graphic was posted on Crunchbase), Group Builder fell within the parameter of those 3 lists of Texas businesses.(evidently Group Build (or the boards it bought up) generates a good bit of revenue)
Want an eye opener? Type or copy/paste the following into Google or Bing and sit back and read awhile.....
"forums owned by group builder"
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Caustic Burno
Well-known member
All right I will ask the low IQ question.
What in the blue blazes is wrong with brown eggs, green eggs or white?
Every one of them came out a chickens ass.
Travlr
Well-known member
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Warren Allison is kind of amusing. You sir are scary.Scroll to the bottom:
Group Builder - Community Management Consulting
I can tell you right now, that the address is a United States post Office at 900 Bugg Ln Suite 110a Office 911 San Marcos Tx, which is a relatively new facility located in the back of a strip mall. How do I know? Because, Google Earth says so, as well as a search for Post offices in San Marcos Texas. y guess iis, that the address is just a post office box....Box #911.
Group Builder is an investment/internet group that buys up discussion boards/forums, and monetizes them thru advertising. They own 100s if not thousands tho they recently got rid of some under performers in specific sectors.
It doesn't take a big corporate footprint to do such things nowadays...or very many employees at all.
Who they are/what they do
This is not an unusual arrangement. There is $$$$$$ to be made in these discussion boards and in some cases a LOT of money. After all, the hard work was already done, by the person that started the forum (in this case Mr. Gravely) and of course, by the thousands of creators of all the content that makes up the discussion board..you and I.
There are on-line companies that keep track of such endeavors. One of them is Crunchbase.
What does Crunchbase do?
The great gawd Google sez:
"AI Overview
Crunchbase is a website that provides information about businesses, including companies, people, and investments. It's used by entrepreneurs, investors, and other professionals to learn about companies, markets, and opportunities"
That pretty much says it. Crunchbase (and other companies like it) is just a data gathering company, full of fun facts and information about all kinds of companies. (But, you have to be careful with Ai. Ai also claims Cattle Today is owned by NCBA.)
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Ai is simply not to be trusted 100%...EVER!
But, here's one of the graphics that Crunchbase includes for the company that may (or may not) own Cattle Today... Group Builders. (what this indicates is that at the time this graphic was posted on Crunchbase), Group Builder fell within the parameter of those 3 lists of Texas businesses.(evidently Group Build (or the boards it bought up) generates a good bit of revenue)
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Want an eye opener? Type or copy/paste the following into Google or Bing and sit back and read awhile.....
"forums owned by group builder"
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