Who are they?

[4hfarms]

Is there a possibility that all these new people are not..... people?

Didn't they just release AI into the world? There are an awful lot of crap posters either complaining about they way farming works, spreading the vast knowledge about something they know nothing about or people that post once or twice without follow up. Could it be an algorithm keeping us all amused?

 

[shaz]

Maybe city folk?

 

[jltrent]

Seems when cattle prices go up, they come out of the woodwork. When cattle are cheap, we have the same ole diehard crew.

 

[kenny thomas]

If i was 30 years younger i would love all these new cattle people who know the right way to do things and have lots of money to spend. I could help relieve them of that money burden.

 

[A.J.]

Several of the new ones lately don't even make sense about what they are talking about. They ramble on about off the wall stuff not related to the topic they reply to.

 

[crossbreed]

Is there a possibility that all these new people are not..... people?

Didn't they just release AI into the world? There are an awful lot of crap posters either complaining about they way farming works, spreading the vast knowledge about something they know nothing about or people that post once or twice without follow up. Could it be an algorithm keeping us all amused?

Lord I hope not. between AI and bots and pictures I cant believe.....

 

[greybeard]

Several of the new ones lately don't even make sense about what they are talking about. They ramble on about off the wall stuff not related to the topic they reply to.

Some of the old hands do the same thing ...

 

[Warren Allison]

Is there a possibility that all these new people are not..... people?

Didn't they just release AI into the world? There are an awful lot of crap posters either complaining about they way farming works, spreading the vast knowledge about something they know nothing about or people that post once or twice without follow up. Could it be an algorithm keeping us all amused?

Under the MEMBERS tab, you can see who all visited the page. You see member name, You see member names, visitors and bots Lots of bots. The bots can't post or comment, they are just going to this page to data mine. One reason you will never see me post a pic ( other than one on the internet) and won't see me post an address or phone number, etc. I won't even PM anyone phone numbers, pics, etc. I will PM you and get your email address, and/or phone number, and give you mine, and send you specific info, pics etc. Admins can read your PMs. so any hacker can access them too. This forum is hosted on a server in Panama (China) and owned by someone in Panama. But here lately, you see new members with odd names, and none never list a location. Even with several people asking them to. A lot never respond to any replies. I think these may be AI created profiles. You see it all the time on social media like FB, etc.

 

[Travlr]

Vegans and animal rights people, maybe. I wish they'd be honest enough to engage in a real conversation.

There's a site I go to that has a resident artificial intelligence (bot?) that answers questions, and you can actually have a conversation with it. You can get it to admit it's getting information based on the quantity of conclusions on one side or the other... rather than on any kind of quality. It has no filter to decide whether anything is accurate, and doesn't recognize any authority other than the "trainers" that write the algorithms. It will agree that your information is valuable and more accurate than its own... but it won't remember or learn. It's interesting how polite and diplomatic it is, but it can't learn... it always goes with the majority opinion... and there's a lot of vegans and animal rights advocates that post a lot.

 

[simme]

There's a site I go to that has a resident artificial intelligence (bot?) that answers questions, and you can actually have a conversation with it. You can get it to admit it's getting information based on the quantity of conclusions on one side or the other... rather than on any kind of quality. It has no filter to decide whether anything is accurate, and doesn't recognize any authority other than the "trainers" that write the algorithms. It will agree that your information is valuable and more accurate than its own... but it won't remember or learn. It's interesting how polite and diplomatic it is, but it can't learn... it always goes with the majority opinion... and there's a lot of vegans and animal rights advocates that post a lot.

Those descriptions also could apply to a good portion of the general population.

 

[SBMF 2015]

Seems when cattle prices go up, they come out of the woodwork. When cattle are cheap, we have the same ole diehard crew.

The guy I was Herdsman for said he could make more money feeding a little higher priced corn because it kept all the amateurs out of the game.
When the bottom would fall out of the corn market and prices were lower than the cost of production guys who never fed cattle in their life would try to resurrect their grandpa's feedlot. Then they would go to the sale barn and pay way too much for feeder cattle to feed that "cheap" corn to in hopes of making money.

 

[Dave]

Vegans and animal rights people, maybe. I wish they'd be honest enough to engage in a real conversation.

There's a site I go to that has a resident artificial intelligence (bot?) that answers questions, and you can actually have a conversation with it. You can get it to admit it's getting information based on the quantity of conclusions on one side or the other... rather than on any kind of quality. It has no filter to decide whether anything is accurate, and doesn't recognize any authority other than the "trainers" that write the algorithms. It will agree that your information is valuable and more accurate than its own... but it won't remember or learn. It's interesting how polite and diplomatic it is, but it can't learn... it always goes with the majority opinion... and there's a lot of vegans and animal rights advocates that post a lot.

Those people passed laws here requiring eggs to be produced by cage free chickens. Also only allowing eggs from cage free birds to be brought in from out of state. Thus taking egg production back 60 or 70 years. Add in bird flu and prices go through the roof and they cry about the high price of eggs. Let them suffer for their own stupidity.

 

[GoWyo]

For the nutritional value, eggs are probably priced appropriately right now.

 

[simme]

For the nutritional value, eggs are probably priced appropriately right now.

I suspect you are right. For years, eggs cost around 10 cents per egg. Now closer to 50 cents. I don't know how producers ever covered the cost of the house, equipment, feed, labor and such at 10 cents per day per hen. And those were retail prices. I guess the producer was getting pennies per hen.

 

[Travlr]

Those people passed laws here requiring eggs to be produced by cage free chickens. Also only allowing eggs from cage free birds to be brought in from out of state. Thus taking egg production back 60 or 70 years. Add in bird flu and prices go through the roof and they cry about the high price of eggs. Let them suffer for their own stupidity.

I've seen chickens on pasture with movable coops, chickens said to be cage free and loose in a huge building, and of course "battery" chickens in small cages. I wonder if there is any clear difference in how likely they are to get bird flu?

Vegans don't care how high the price of eggs is. They want to kill off the entire industry. It wouldn't surprise me if they would like all domestic birds to become infected and would applaud if it was found that people were intentionally spreading the disease.

 

[Brute 23]

I'm not complaining about egg prices. Junk food costs way more.

 

[Travlr]

I suspect you are right. For years, eggs cost around 10 cents per egg. Now closer to 50 cents. I don't know how producers ever covered the cost of the house, equipment, feed, labor and such at 10 cents per day per hen. And those were retail prices. I guess the producer was getting pennies per hen.

And yet at ten cents an egg, retail, those producers probably had a more reliable, consistent income than commercial beef producers. What is the mark-up on eggs?
If they got 5 eggs per bird a week from a flock of 30K birds they would be getting $15,000 a week. That sounds like a lot, but the birds eat about forty-five thousand pounds of feed every week. And of course that doesn't include the price of real estate, buildings, taxes, meds, etc.
They must be working the farm subsidies...

 

[alacowman1]

Lord I hope not. between AI and bots and pictures I cant believe.....

And We thought The fake News was bad enough, now this …believing nothing you hear and "half" of what you see ..has became and believe nothing you see..

 

[Dave]

At 10 cents an egg that is $1.20 a dozen. I haven't seen eggs that cheap in a long time. In about 2015 eggs were wholesale for about $1.67 if I remember correctly. Before I retired one of the clients I worked with had 990,000 birds. All in cages. They were high rise so they could dive a skid steer under them to clean out. Although they only cleaned out once the birds were done and gone. The cages had a slight slope so the eggs rolled out on to a conveyor belt. Those belts ran to a bigger belt. There was covered belts which ran from all the houses to the central packing plant where the eggs were processed. There the eggs were cleaned, sized, sorted, and put into cartons mechanically. So the first time the egg was touched by human hands was when the customer removed it from the carton. How do you replace that with cage free? How much more labor becomes involved? More human movement in and out of the houses decreases bio security and increases the chances of bird flu or other ailments.

 

[Travlr]

And We thought The fake News was bad enough, now this …believing nothing you hear and "half" of what you see ..has became and believe nothing you see..

Is it the death of common sense? Or will people find a way to filter the bull**it and become more wise? Stay tuned... news at eleven.