lithuanian farmer":3mfnv7h4 said:Easiest calving breeds are Aubrac and Salers. The are often used for Culard Charolais bulls, or just any other terminal bull, here.
However, others some other breeds can have more difficulties at calving, but they sure can calve big calves sometimes: Blonde d'Aquitaine, Charolais, Simmental. They are big breeds, so their BW is bigger here.
ALACOWMAN":279ow3mg said:Beefmaster, and most of your Brahman influenced.., now I'm talking bigger than your average, not freakish monsters...
Boot Jack Bulls":1dbaf2gj said:It's not a matter of breed. If the females don't have proper structure, and the bull doesn't sire calves of the right shape, you will have issues.
Bullitt":1rfoep20 said:Boot Jack Bulls":1rfoep20 said:It's not a matter of breed. If the females don't have proper structure, and the bull doesn't sire calves of the right shape, you will have issues.
I think the breed of cow has a lot to do with structure and shape. Obviously the breed of the bull will make a big difference also. You are right that there are variations among a breed. That is why people are always looking for a "low birth weight" bull.
the calves usually come slim bodied and smooth... The Brahman influence condenses the calf size to some extent,plus a birth canal you can back a train in..Bullitt":jf5k72wm said:ALACOWMAN":jf5k72wm said:Beefmaster, and most of your Brahman influenced.., now I'm talking bigger than your average, not freakish monsters...
Can the Brahman X Hereford cows easily give birth to large calves?
I was curious about which breeds can easily give birth to large calves because I saw a Limousin bull for sale that stated it produces large calves and is not suggested for heifers.
I am not sure what they consider a big calf. I would guess maybe over 90 pounds.
ALACOWMAN":22totgo0 said:the calves usually come slim bodied and smooth... The Brahman influence condenses the calf size to some extent,plus a birth canal you can back a train in..
Boot Jack Bulls":3q5uwqr1 said:Bullitt":3q5uwqr1 said:Boot Jack Bulls":3q5uwqr1 said:It's not a matter of breed. If the females don't have proper structure, and the bull doesn't sire calves of the right shape, you will have issues.
I think the breed of cow has a lot to do with structure and shape. Obviously the breed of the bull will make a big difference also. You are right that there are variations among a breed. That is why people are always looking for a "low birth weight" bull.
Bullitt":24d9hefq said:lithuanian farmer":24d9hefq said:Easiest calving breeds are Aubrac and Salers. The are often used for Culard Charolais bulls, or just any other terminal bull, here.
However, others some other breeds can have more difficulties at calving, but they sure can calve big calves sometimes: Blonde d'Aquitaine, Charolais, Simmental. They are big breeds, so their BW is bigger here.
I looked on the Internet and I see that Aubrac cows average about 1,300 pounds, and the Salers are even larger. Those are pretty big cows. I can see why they can easily give birth to large calves.
Lazy M":3pxgtw2n said:Sort of related, I found an article from University of Missouri that showed the bw and calving difficulty associated with different breed sires on a herd of similar Angus/Hereford cattle. They considered "calving difficulty" if they had to provide assistance. I believe that they used sires that were at breed average for CE and/or BW.
Table 3
Breed of sire effects on calving difficulty and birth weight
Breed of sire Calving difficulty Birth weight
Hereford and Angus 2.9 percent 78.7 pounds
Jersey 2.9 percent 68.6 pounds
Red Poll 3.7 percent 78.7 pounds
Tarentaise 6.0 percent 82.7 pounds
Sahiwal 6.2 percent 83.8 pounds
Pinzgauer 6.3 percent 86.4 pounds
Gelbvieh 8.0 percent 86.0 pounds
Brown Swiss 8.4 percent 85.6 pounds
Limousin 9.4 percent 85.8 pounds
Brahman 10.0 percent 90.2 pounds
Chianina 11.0 percent 89.3 pounds
South Devon 11.9 percent 83.1 pounds
Simmental 14.9 percent 88.9 pounds
Charolais 18.4 percent 90.6 pounds
Maine Anjou 20.4 percent 90.6 pounds
Overall average 8.3 percent 83.5 pounds
Note
Calves were out of Hereford and Angus cows, 4 years old and older.
RanchMan90":3jf2altz said:Longhorn or Angus :2cents: :hide:
It seems they can spit out calves from the biggest Charolais bulls from the sale barn. At least that's what they do hereBullitt":mcpuda23 said:RanchMan90":mcpuda23 said:Longhorn or Angus :2cents: :hide:
It seems that Longhorn cows usually give birth to smaller calves even when bred to other breeds, don't you think?