bmcdonald
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How can you compare the 2? When vehicles have a thousands of parts and cattle very few. Its would be hard pressed to get vehicle 100% american made nowadays. But cattle are different story.
When is Beef a Product of the USA
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simme
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That's why I said "Obviously beef is simpler than that". There was also another point in my post. That an expensive German manufacturer would build their largest plant in the US, staff it with native born non-union southern people, and EXPORT 70% of those cars with many of them going to CHINA. While US manufacturers shut down domestic facilities, manufacture in CHINA and export to the US. Sometimes I get carried away and weave in another topic. Sorry for the confusion.
Extra topic - I also read that some people take their cattle to US dis-assembly processors and end up not getting all the parts, like livers and hides. And suspect they may have lost some burger.
Hpacres440p
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Heck, that happens with some local processors!That's why I said "Obviously beef is simpler than that". There was also another point in my post. That an expensive German manufacturer would build their largest plant in the US, staff it with native born non-union southern people, and EXPORT 70% of those cars with many of them going to CHINA. While US manufacturers shut down domestic facilities, manufacture in CHINA and export to the US. Sometimes I get carried away and weave in another topic. Sorry for the confusion.
Extra topic - I also read that some people take their cattle to US dis-assembly processors and end up not getting all the parts, like livers and hides. And suspect they may have lost some burger.
HDRider
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Make the foreign guys ID their cattle. Don't burden the US producer with it
OP
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But how will you know if they don't? No ID, then they must be a product of the USA.
HDRider
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RFID can be scanned real fast. Truck, ship whatever at port of entry, scan good, good to go, not, send 'em back.
Easy peasy
OP
OP
But what if the tag is removed after they enter the US?
HDRider
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OP
OP
But then, if there is no tag when it is processed, it can be labeled "a product of the US" when in fact it is not.
Just like now in other words.
HDRider
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Put onus for chain of custody on the importer
OP
OP
And then you are relying on the importer to be honest about it.
callmefence
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The" what if squad" has arrived.....
Any rule can be broken. That doesn't mean it's not a good idea.
Any rule can be broken. That doesn't mean it's not a good idea.
Can't we brand them and implant a chip?
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OP
I think that if all imported animals had to be branded and implanted that would be fine. But that is a lot of work that the importer would never go for.
HDRider
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You worry about separating pepper from fly shyt
HDRider
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Good. I don't want his beef
Buck Randall
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It would be fine, but there's an angle to this that most producers don't consider.
U.S. Beef Exports By Country (Year-to-Date)
The United States has exported 2.56 billion pounds of beef so far in 2023, down 14.9% from 2022.
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Mexico and Canada are the 4th and 5th largest buyers of our beef. We can't impose restrictions on their beef without expecting them to do the same to us. If it hurts our own export market, it's probably not worth it.
Silver
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Goods are a product of the country in which they last underwent a substantial transformation. So if you fiddled with it last it's yours.
I think if Canada imports a steer from the US, feeds and processes the steer, and contaminates it with listeria we should not be calling that beef a product of the USA.
I think if Canada imports a steer from the US, feeds and processes the steer, and contaminates it with listeria we should not be calling that beef a product of the USA.
Lee VanRoss
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Silver, I expect more out of you than to apply a one animal example to the national identification of a country's production.
Suppose we work on a solution that can benefit both of us?
I like mine medium rare, sliced rather thin and cooked fast. Almost crispy on the outside and the inside a bit like a branding iron fire taste.
You may not but that does not make either of us totally wrong, unless you use ketchup!
Suppose we work on a solution that can benefit both of us?
I like mine medium rare, sliced rather thin and cooked fast. Almost crispy on the outside and the inside a bit like a branding iron fire taste.
You may not but that does not make either of us totally wrong, unless you use ketchup!
