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<blockquote data-quote="Oldtimer" data-source="post: 39045" data-attributes="member: 97"><p>ccstockfarm- Don't know about the price on barley- Thats what was posted on the Winnipeg exchange.</p><p></p><p>I really think you and I probably agree on more things than you think- I was probably one of the happiest around when I saw that Canadian producers were finally organizing to put some legal clamps on the packers, get your own packing plants, and develop your own export markets- but then your govt. just kind of rolled over- your cattle organizations seem to be doing nothing (except wait for the border to open) and I don't know if anything will change. Those that are making money off Canadian beef and cattle don't want a change. The thing is I'm sure that if there is no change, than the border and imports will be a hot issue for years to come. In this country if the election is close, it could cost a President his job.</p><p></p><p>One of the problems I have with trade agreements and imports of products that we already have is that none of these countries are on the same levels-politically, socially, financially,geographically. These variances cause trade advantages to occur- We both may begin seeing it with the Australian Free Trade Act- and may both be standing side by side fighting to survive if the WTO gets their New World Order worldwide free trade act thru- No way will we be able to compete with Brazilian beef, when they still allow slavery to exist.</p><p></p><p>I don't know if you read the post I put up on the Coffee Shop a couple of days ago about NAFTA- but it has almost bankrupt Montana- a state that back in the 70's and 80's was very rich- Many cattlemen in this area (no matter if they belong to NCBA or R-CALF or whatever) are in pretty much agreement that the border situation cannot go back to the status quo it was before BSE- that Canadian cattle were smothering our market.</p><p></p><p>I have had to support R-CALF because they are the only cattle organization that has went to battle to try and get the cow/calf man a fair price and protect the US cattleman and cattle industry- If some call that protectionism, so be it.</p><p></p><p>I'm sure the battling over the border is not over- I know if it is opened to live cattle and protections aren't in place to safeguard the US herd, there will be more lawsuits and probably court orders and stays on the opening. Also when the border opens and the prices nosedive (which I hope they won't-but believe they will) there will be more fair trade actions filed- It won't go away as long as the US has to be used as the middleman.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldtimer, post: 39045, member: 97"] ccstockfarm- Don't know about the price on barley- Thats what was posted on the Winnipeg exchange. I really think you and I probably agree on more things than you think- I was probably one of the happiest around when I saw that Canadian producers were finally organizing to put some legal clamps on the packers, get your own packing plants, and develop your own export markets- but then your govt. just kind of rolled over- your cattle organizations seem to be doing nothing (except wait for the border to open) and I don't know if anything will change. Those that are making money off Canadian beef and cattle don't want a change. The thing is I'm sure that if there is no change, than the border and imports will be a hot issue for years to come. In this country if the election is close, it could cost a President his job. One of the problems I have with trade agreements and imports of products that we already have is that none of these countries are on the same levels-politically, socially, financially,geographically. These variances cause trade advantages to occur- We both may begin seeing it with the Australian Free Trade Act- and may both be standing side by side fighting to survive if the WTO gets their New World Order worldwide free trade act thru- No way will we be able to compete with Brazilian beef, when they still allow slavery to exist. I don't know if you read the post I put up on the Coffee Shop a couple of days ago about NAFTA- but it has almost bankrupt Montana- a state that back in the 70's and 80's was very rich- Many cattlemen in this area (no matter if they belong to NCBA or R-CALF or whatever) are in pretty much agreement that the border situation cannot go back to the status quo it was before BSE- that Canadian cattle were smothering our market. I have had to support R-CALF because they are the only cattle organization that has went to battle to try and get the cow/calf man a fair price and protect the US cattleman and cattle industry- If some call that protectionism, so be it. I'm sure the battling over the border is not over- I know if it is opened to live cattle and protections aren't in place to safeguard the US herd, there will be more lawsuits and probably court orders and stays on the opening. Also when the border opens and the prices nosedive (which I hope they won't-but believe they will) there will be more fair trade actions filed- It won't go away as long as the US has to be used as the middleman. [/QUOTE]
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