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<blockquote data-quote="DOC HARRIS" data-source="post: 646701" data-attributes="member: 1683"><p>ArmyDoc-</p><p></p><p>I concur with Knersie about the lack of depth in the Senepol genepool for you to be able to be comfortable with having dependable <em><strong>consistency</strong></em> for future progeny. </p><p></p><p>Regarding the two bulls, (and NOT commenting on the specifics of the Senepol Breed characteristics or traits) they are nine and eight years old, respectively, and as such they are certainly mature enough to exhibit their masculinity and maturity, which they certainly do. However, when we examine their Phenotype closely it becomes obvious that they follow the typical Senepol appearance, color, and polledness, but the genetic traits and characteristics, of course, are not in visual evidence. But the phenotypic traits which ARE seen here tell me that they lack in bone development, they stand too close together in their stance both front and rear, their rumps slope off rearward, they show adequate hindquarter development, good scrotal development, but lack depth of heart girth. This is considering them from a strictly TERMINAL point of view. It is easy to pick individuals apart from a picture, and perhaps in seeing them "live", so to speak, they could demonstrate a more desirable presentation. Their MATERNAL indications ARE in evidence, as are their FUNCTIONAL traits. </p><p></p><p>The original selection traits of the breed (which crossed Red Poll with the N'Dama Breed) were focused on heat tolerance and insect resistance, extreme gentleness, good meat, and high milk production of the two breeds. I would asssume that is the reason for the smaller bone development as compared to a strong TERMINAL breed, such as Charolais or Simmental. But, they are what they were developed to be, and undoubtedly are dominant for those characteristics.</p><p></p><p>You may be able to utilize these traits in your herd, if those strong genetics fit your requirements for your locale and environment. But you should consider the genetics of your COW herd before anticipating rapid characteristic responses from the use of these bulls. It could take several generations of a focused mating protocol before you could realize consistent progeny responsive behavior. </p><p></p><p>In response to your original question concerning "What do you think of these bulls?", I hope I have expanded your thinking a little bit. I admit it is a little like comparing Apples and Peaches. But of course, any "Dual-Purpose" breed of cattle presents the same complexities in judging and analysis considerations. It all condenses to what your desires are - exactly - in your herd development agendas.</p><p></p><p>DOC HARRIS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DOC HARRIS, post: 646701, member: 1683"] ArmyDoc- I concur with Knersie about the lack of depth in the Senepol genepool for you to be able to be comfortable with having dependable [i][b]consistency[/b][/i] for future progeny. Regarding the two bulls, (and NOT commenting on the specifics of the Senepol Breed characteristics or traits) they are nine and eight years old, respectively, and as such they are certainly mature enough to exhibit their masculinity and maturity, which they certainly do. However, when we examine their Phenotype closely it becomes obvious that they follow the typical Senepol appearance, color, and polledness, but the genetic traits and characteristics, of course, are not in visual evidence. But the phenotypic traits which ARE seen here tell me that they lack in bone development, they stand too close together in their stance both front and rear, their rumps slope off rearward, they show adequate hindquarter development, good scrotal development, but lack depth of heart girth. This is considering them from a strictly TERMINAL point of view. It is easy to pick individuals apart from a picture, and perhaps in seeing them "live", so to speak, they could demonstrate a more desirable presentation. Their MATERNAL indications ARE in evidence, as are their FUNCTIONAL traits. The original selection traits of the breed (which crossed Red Poll with the N'Dama Breed) were focused on heat tolerance and insect resistance, extreme gentleness, good meat, and high milk production of the two breeds. I would asssume that is the reason for the smaller bone development as compared to a strong TERMINAL breed, such as Charolais or Simmental. But, they are what they were developed to be, and undoubtedly are dominant for those characteristics. You may be able to utilize these traits in your herd, if those strong genetics fit your requirements for your locale and environment. But you should consider the genetics of your COW herd before anticipating rapid characteristic responses from the use of these bulls. It could take several generations of a focused mating protocol before you could realize consistent progeny responsive behavior. In response to your original question concerning "What do you think of these bulls?", I hope I have expanded your thinking a little bit. I admit it is a little like comparing Apples and Peaches. But of course, any "Dual-Purpose" breed of cattle presents the same complexities in judging and analysis considerations. It all condenses to what your desires are - exactly - in your herd development agendas. DOC HARRIS [/QUOTE]
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