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<blockquote data-quote="cypressfarms" data-source="post: 676195" data-attributes="member: 2653"><p>I'm not a registered Angus producer, just a lowly commercial cow/calf produce - but I'll throw my 2 cents:</p><p></p><p>1.You didn't say what the friend bull was....</p><p></p><p>2. 1300 pound cow would normally have bigger calves than 400 to 500 pounds at 180 days old. Not really bad, but they should be heavier. I'm guessing your estimating their weight. Be careful, many people have trouble guessing calves weight. Note how wide they are, how long, and how tall. They can be deceiving. If the calf actually weighs 650-700 then your in a whole different ballpark. 800 pounds at a year and a half is kind of small if she's out of the same stock as your cow is.</p><p></p><p>3. It's the summer, why are you feeding them? Caustic always says you can't make profit out of a sack and I agree with him. Those cows should be able to produce a good, big healthy calf without fee - especially in the summer.</p><p></p><p>4. Many people wait to breed when the heifers are around 14-16 moths old to calve as 2 year olds. The is no set in stone rule, but you don't want to breed too early (8 or nine months) because it'll stunt the moma. If you wait too long, say 18-20 months, your losing money - for a commercial operation the name of the game is producing calves, the sooner the better without causing harm to moma. The heifers size plays an important part in this. If a heifer is bigger than normal, she will cycle and can be bred earlier without causing harm. If you have a heifer that's 15 months old and still is very small you may hurt her to breed at such a small size. If she's that small, however, you probably need to change her zipcode.</p><p></p><p>5. Life expectancy varies based on many factors. If the cows are not properly taken care of, or if they live in rocky,sandy ground they may not last as long as a cow in lush pastures whose vaccinated and taken care of properly. With cows, it's more a factor of them losing their teeth. Once a cow's teeth have been grinded down to the gums, they cannot forage as well as others and start to lose condition. I would hazard to say that teeth are more important than age. I have seen 18 year old cows still raise great calves with good teeth, and I have seen 10 year olds woth no mouth (read teeth) that couldn't make it. Most crossbreds are longer lived as a general rule, but your angus' should last a good 12 to 14 years minimum.</p><p></p><p>Hope this helps!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cypressfarms, post: 676195, member: 2653"] I'm not a registered Angus producer, just a lowly commercial cow/calf produce - but I'll throw my 2 cents: 1.You didn't say what the friend bull was.... 2. 1300 pound cow would normally have bigger calves than 400 to 500 pounds at 180 days old. Not really bad, but they should be heavier. I'm guessing your estimating their weight. Be careful, many people have trouble guessing calves weight. Note how wide they are, how long, and how tall. They can be deceiving. If the calf actually weighs 650-700 then your in a whole different ballpark. 800 pounds at a year and a half is kind of small if she's out of the same stock as your cow is. 3. It's the summer, why are you feeding them? Caustic always says you can't make profit out of a sack and I agree with him. Those cows should be able to produce a good, big healthy calf without fee - especially in the summer. 4. Many people wait to breed when the heifers are around 14-16 moths old to calve as 2 year olds. The is no set in stone rule, but you don't want to breed too early (8 or nine months) because it'll stunt the moma. If you wait too long, say 18-20 months, your losing money - for a commercial operation the name of the game is producing calves, the sooner the better without causing harm to moma. The heifers size plays an important part in this. If a heifer is bigger than normal, she will cycle and can be bred earlier without causing harm. If you have a heifer that's 15 months old and still is very small you may hurt her to breed at such a small size. If she's that small, however, you probably need to change her zipcode. 5. Life expectancy varies based on many factors. If the cows are not properly taken care of, or if they live in rocky,sandy ground they may not last as long as a cow in lush pastures whose vaccinated and taken care of properly. With cows, it's more a factor of them losing their teeth. Once a cow's teeth have been grinded down to the gums, they cannot forage as well as others and start to lose condition. I would hazard to say that teeth are more important than age. I have seen 18 year old cows still raise great calves with good teeth, and I have seen 10 year olds woth no mouth (read teeth) that couldn't make it. Most crossbreds are longer lived as a general rule, but your angus' should last a good 12 to 14 years minimum. Hope this helps! [/QUOTE]
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